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    Racial Types of the Kurds

    Racial Types of the Kurds

    Originally the core of the Kurds was Iranid with Eastmediterranid and minor Nordoid admixture, whats true to this day for the free and nomadic groups. However, various other types being present from early times on too and their numbers increased especially under sedentary Kurds which mixed and partly adapted to the way of life of peasantry. So the numbers of Anadolids, Asian Alpinoids, Armenids, Arabids and even Turanid-Mongoloids through Turkic-Mongol influences increased, especially in Eastern Anatolia.

    Kurdish areas:
    http://www.arikah.net/enzyklopadie/i.../69/Kurden.jpg
    http://www.arikah.net/enzyklopadie/i...47/Kurden2.jpg

    Group of armed Kurdish men:
    http://ace.acadiau.ca/history/pdoerr/kurds.jpg

    Two young women, rather Mediterranid type, Alpinoid influence:


    Kurdish fighters of rather Iranid type:


    Pred. Iranid, typical refined Iranid with Mediterranid influences in the background, the man on the right has Alpinoid-Cromagnoid tendencies:


    Rather Asian Alpinoid variants in the political-social "elite" of modern times:



    Still somewhat Cromagniform Iranid-Asian Alpinoid on the right:


    Left and right man being Kurdish, left Iranid, right rather Cromagniform Asian Alpinoid with Iranid:


    Rather Iranid Kurds (Europeans should be visible):


    Iranid base but mixed, left one most Iranid, right one rather Alpinoid:


    Iranid Kurd:


    Rather Iranid Kurdish family:


    Iranid Kurd, probably minor Arabid-Mediterranid influence:


    Kurdish girls, mixed, but from left rather Iranid with minor Alpinoid, Asian Alpinoid with minor Iranid, Iranid, Iranid with Asian Alpinoid:


    Rather Iranid Kurd:


    Light and probably Nordoid influenced girl:


    Iranid:


    Asian Alpinoid woman:


    Rather Iranid:
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    Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    So, they are mostly of the Orientalid subfamily.

    Is the Arabid subtype so weak among them? they all look very North-Eastern Orientalid(Iranid), even though they are more near the Arabian Peninsula.

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    AW: Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-Alpine
    So, they are mostly of the Orientalid subfamily.

    Is the Arabid subtype so weak among them? they all look very North-Eastern Orientalid(Iranid), even though they are more near the Arabian Peninsula.
    Yes, the Semitic expansions weren't particularly successful in those areas, though being present. Even Iraq is in many areas more Iranid than Arabid, depending on exact tribe etc. Syria and Iraq are rather the borderline, with the mountainous Kurdish areas being more Iranid with influences of Armenid-Anadolid-Asian Alpinoid.

    You can see the mountainous from West to East Anadolid-Iranid and North to South Armenid-Iranid areas:
    http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/melndcn.htm

    Arabids being stronger one the flat or at least lower lands and desert in particular.
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    Re: AW: Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    I´m a little confused... can you define '' Iranid '' and '' anadolid'' racially?

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    AW: Re: AW: Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
    I´m a little confused... can you define '' Iranid '' and '' anadolid'' racially?
    Iranid is largely the same as Irano-Afghan in Coons terms, the border to Nordindid is not clear, the border to Mediterranid and Nordoid fluent.

    Anadolids being short headed Dinarised people of Anatolia, mostly small herders, more gracile build than Armenids, more refined and narrower face, not as often planoccipital, but could be put in a larger Armenoid category though having Dinaroid traits as well and a fluent border to Eastmediterranids and Iranids.
    From here, Coons plates:
    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet...exts/index.htm

    Iranid in v. Eickstedts terminology:
    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet.../texts/p18.htm



    More refined and less extreme variant of Iranids with Mediterranoid-Nordoid influences morpologically and might have respective admixtures (Eickstedt saw especially Mediterranid influences in many of them, border is fluent as I said), which is common in the Iranid spectrum:


    Anadolid (Armenoid regional variant in Coons work):


    Asian Alpinoids:
    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet.../texts/p15.htm
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    Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    Orientalids, Armenoids, dinaroids, Armenids, Asian alpines, Capsians, Iranids and Eastmediterranids are sometimes difficult to differenciate, not only because they are very mixed with each other in some places, but because they are derivated/specializations, or at least have strong affinities with a prehistorical original group : the Neolithic/Corded.
    If in Europe we have different racial groups derivated from the protomorphic/archaic Cro-magnon/Paleolithic man (sometimes influenced by the Corded), in W.Asia, the same ocurred, with the ''progressive'' Neolithic /Corded being the correlated ''proteomorphic'' type



    N. Europe X West Asia


    Basic Form (original ) : Cromagnon X Levantine



    unaltered form : Faelid X eastmediterranid/orientalid/iranid


    changes in robusticy (by admixture/specialization) : nordid X armenoid




    foetalized/infantilized.(by mongoloid admixture/specialization):

    Baltid X Asian Alpine

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    Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    here is a rather large collection of photos if anyone wishes to classify them (a few of them werealso in Agrippa's posts)

    http://panaryan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170

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    Re: Racial Types of the Kurds

    Is there a historical description of the apperance of Saladin who was a Kurd?

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    When I see Kurds I see robust Iranids, Asian Alpines and some Dinarics like those in the Balkans. Sectarians like Alevis are more Alpine than the Sunni uplanders. Among the Yezidis exists a Turkomen or Caspian type between the Iranid and the Corded recognised by Russian authors. Also Kurdish Cromagnoids.

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