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    Thumbs Up The Odinic Rite: The Celebration of Northern European Racial and Spiritual Heritage

    This is truly a beautiful piece!!!

    ODINISM

    Our Heritage and Identity - Part 1

    First published in ORB No. 106, March 1991

    Our Heritage and Identity - Part 1

    First published in ORB No. 106, March 1991

    The Odinic Rite celebrates our own unique Folk Faith, and in present day society its existence is in itself something to celebrate because it affirms that against huge odds our Holy Faith has never died.

    To survive and flourish we must be able to fend for ourselves, for no-one else will fend for us - but that is the way of the Northern Peoples. We survived and flourished with no help from anyone but ourselves (and the Gods). When our ancestors' harvests were poor, and starvation stalked the land, they had no stranger people to organise 'Band Aid' or any other aid. So it was in all areas of life - our forbears lived with the constant threat of destruction.

    Today, materially, we seem to be far more secure, but again our Folk face extinction. In the apace of a century our percentage of the world's population has plummeted to under 10%, our homelands have large and rapidly breeding alien communities, and stranger people control most of our 'wealth', and dictate to our supposed 'leaders'. Yet, in these dark times, the sacred light of our Faith still glows. A return to our Ancestral Faith is a promise of survival, and in this we must rely on ourselves; we must be dedicated and strong. Remember also that our religion is a living faith, and no amount of purely academic knowledge (important as it may be) can equal the experience of actually feeling and living Odinism, the spiritual heritage of our people, our birthright. It is heartening to see our kin in countries across Midgarth claiming again this right.

    The Odinic Rite encourages the practice of all positive aspects of our religion, and there are many. One of the most important is performing the Blots, when we can very consciously link with our comrade Odinists in honouring our Gods. The Blots are the celebration of our Gods by their People, and a blessing of their People from our Gods. In performing each Blot we consciously affirm again our past, present, and continuing biological and spiritual link with our Ancestors, Lands and Gods. We, the Odinic Rite, are a manifestation of that link.

    Odinism gives us our identity, and identity is vital, for an individual, and for a race. Many of today's problems, personal, national, and global, stem from a loss of identity. We are in an unnatural situation, for while it is socially acceptable, in tact seen as desirable, for all other ethnic groups to feel a pride in their culture, their heritage, the same does not apply to us.

    Backbreaking stances are taken by established authority, and draconian laws are passed, to ensure that the customs of stranger peoples are protected, respected, and encouraged, but we are taught to belittle and forget our own. We are constantly made to feel guilty for our successes, ashamed of our heritage. The virtues of other peoples are extolled, but our own neglected.

    This perverse, twisted teaching is found on every level, from cheap soap-operas to academic works. But to survive, to flourish, we must preserve our identity, and there is nothing that more clearly defines this than our people's native, organic religion, because a Native Faith is the sum of a Folk - what it was, what it is, and what it can be.

    The loss, or blurring of our identity was inevitable once our people were converted to a faith which was not their own - a religion which taught that a stranger God was the only God, and that a stranger people were the Chosen People - a religion which taught a disgust of life and of the Earth, and which taught that we are all guilty of some awful inherent lain' - a religion which 'ungodded' nature.

    It was our Folk then, more than others, who were enslaved by this alien faith, and as we, more than others, have influenced world events, the harm we have done has been worldwide.

    We know that each Folk (and therefore the world) is best served by it's own way. For the Japanese it is Shinto, for the Indians it is Hinduism - for our Folk that way is Odinism. It reflects our true character and inspiration.

    ©2003 The Odinic Rite

    All articles are the work of OR members and friends (1980's to present)
    and do not necessarily represent the views of the OR as a whole.

    http://odinic-rite.org/index2.html

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    That was very well put and quite true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by friedrich braun
    We know that each Folk (and therefore the world) is best served by it's own way. For the Japanese it is Shinto, for the Indians it is Hinduism - for our Folk that way is Odinism. It reflects our true character and inspiration.
    This is one thing I simply don't understand about most heathens/pagans. They choose a religion because of its origins rather than its theology.

    Some advice: it's perfectly ok to be attracted to and interested in a faith because of its ethnic origins; just make sure you also agree with its philosophy/theology before adhering to it!

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    Euro-paganism/heathenism has a theology, they just don't have fifteen centuries of internecine, religious butcheries and wars and inquisitions and persecutions and genocides, etc. over incomprehensible gobbledygook behind them. Christianity was persecuted (not as extensively as Christian propagandists alleged, btw) for roughly three hundred years; however, Christians persecuted (and with the vengeance of a mad dog) for roughly fifteen centuries.

    Read up on various Euro-pagan/heathen religious before making such an arrogant and ill-informed statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pushkin
    This is one thing I simply don't understand about most heathens/pagans. They choose a religion because of its origins rather than its theology.

    Some advice: it's perfectly ok to be attracted to and interested in a faith because of its ethnic origins; just make sure you also agree with its philosophy/theology before adhering to it!
    Last edited by friedrich braun; Sunday, November 23rd, 2003 at 08:12 PM.

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    Funny you accuse me of being arrogant and ill-informed when I never stated that heathenism/euro-paganism doesn't have a theology. Go ahead Friederich, please point to the sentence where I said anything of the sort.

    I said many adherents to heathenism choose to adhere to it primarily for reasons of ethnic origins as opposed to largely on theological grounds. What proof do I have, I have the words of heathens themselves who admit it!

    And I simply gave some common sense advice that one should primarily adhere to a religion because they agree with its theology. Sorry for actually showed some concern for your faith. In fact one could have easily said the same thing about Christianity and choosing which denomination to belong to.

    You need to relax.

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    European heathenism and paganism have theologies, but no developed ethos or philosophy. They are actually quite primitive and intellectually sterile relics of a period in time when virtually all Europeans had achieved very little of what we would call civilization. Viking wannabes and fetishists notwithstanding, berserkers running around looting and raping and pillaging is not something I want to be associated with. Am I of Scandinavian ancestry? Yes. Does it make me feel compelled to make up silly pagan pseudonyms and some stupid username like AryanHeilOdinVikingWarriorMjöllnir? No. Everyone's ancestors were savages at some point, but actually revelling in that fact is quite bizarre, especially for people who want to talk about civilization. Ancient Greeks had quite a crude religion as well, but I don't see any Zeusian temples or Apollonian oracles around. Why should we take Thor and Odin any more seriously? They are no more real than Zeus or Apollo, or any other pagan deities in any cultures. I understand and approve of wanting to preserve them as ancestral symbols for posterity's sake, but trying to keep them around as a legitimate religion is frankly asinine. Most pagans and heathens today aren't even racialist; they are fat 30-something guys who live in their parents' basement, read Lord of the Rings books and play Dungeons and Dragons.

    Nor is Christianity any better. It didn't civilize the heathens, it just replaced their silly primitive deities with other silly primitive deities from somewhere else. It was just as scientifically backwards and socially barbaric as any other religion. It stifled learning and progress just as other dogmatic religions do. Paganism is no better off in this regard; Socrates was put to death for lacking piety towards the Gods, after all. Pagans seem to think that they are innocent victims of evil Christian persecution and that pre-Christian Europe was some kind of paradise. Furthermore, they want to deny that paganism was anti-progress, dogmatic and hostile to other religions itself. All organized religions end up bringing out these base human instincts: greed, lust for power, pride, arrogance, conquest, etc. Internecine wars would just as surely have occurred under paganism as under Christianity. They would have just been fought under a different pretense. All wars are really started about the same things: land, money, power. Everything else is just for show. Religions don't change a person's fundamental constitution; they only amplify or mute their inherent drives and instincts. To maintain that religions totally transform a person for better or worse and make them do things they wouldn't have otherwise is to buy in to absurd behaviorist social conditioning theories.

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    In the interests of fairness, I'll deal entirely with Stribog's rants against Christianity and let the Heathens deal with his views on their faith.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stríbog
    Nor is Christianity any better. It didn't civilize the heathens, it just replaced their silly primitive deities with other silly primitive deities from somewhere else. It was just as scientifically backwards and socially barbaric as any other religion. It stifled learning and progress just as other dogmatic religions do.
    And you're an idiot! Irish monks copied and preserved all sorts of Classical knowledge during the Dark Ages, when barbarian hordes were ravaging across Europe and burning libraries. Most historians agree that if it weren't for these monks, any book written before 1000AD would've been lost forever.

    During the Middle Ages, almost all learned men were men of the Church. Many, like St. Thomas Aquinas, helped revived Greco-Roman knolwedge and even helped lay the foundations for the Renaisiance.

    Pope Gregory XIII introduced a major achievement in modern astronomy. The Western world still marked time by the Julian calendar created in 46 B.C. The calendar was 12 days off, leaving Church feasts woefully behind the seasons for which they were intended. A number of pontiffs had attempted to correct the problem, but it was Pope Gregory XIII who was able to present a more accurate calendar in 1582. BTW, this calender is still being used today!

    Then it should be noted that Nicholas Copernicus was a priest when he theorized that the earth moved around the sun. Pope Leo X (1513-1521) was intrigued by his theories and expressed an interest in hearing them advanced. Since at the time there was no way to phyiscally prove Copernicus's theories, the church said that his views should be presented as such; only theories and not facts.

    So contrary to your ravings, the Church and faith indeed contributed much to scientific research and discovery.

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    LOL no need to resort to insults.

    The Irish monks card has been played entirely to death, and I haven't seen much to suggest they preserved many secular intellectual works. I don't consider things like the Book of Kells to be landmark works of European culture. Most historians I've seen don't argue this, except for incredibly biased Irish ones who search desperately for any real contribution Ireland has made intellectually. The Arab world was actually responsible for most of the Classical preservation that occurred during the Middle Ages. The school at Toledo was world-renowned and European royalty actually sent their children there to be educated by Moors. The 'learned men' were of the Church only because the Church denied education to the masses, fearful they would become too powerful and politically viable. Being a 'learned man' in the Middle Ages usually just meant being able to read and write and speak Latin; true intellectuals were persecuted by the Church.

    The real fact is that Christianity brought on the Dark Ages, and anyone who examine history objectively will realize this. Christianity was incredibly hostile to true intellect. Read the story of how the Alexandrian academic Hypatia had her flesh carved off with shells and was burnt alive for her refusal to embrace Christianity. Christianity

    Galileo and Copernicus were NOT embraced by the Church. Copernicus' theories directly contradicted the Bible and were rejected a priori. The Bible, that repository of scientific wisdom, also claims that insects have 4 legs and that bats are birds. Christianity forbade biological experiments: dissection, pathology, fertilization experiments, etc. This is why the Arab world surpasses Europe in medicine for centuries: it did not have prohibitions against dissection and anatomical studies. I won't even bring up Darwinism since you probably don't accept that either. Christianity caused every unexplained occurrence to be attributed to wizardry and witchcraft, and who knows how many people were burnt as wizards or witches?

    Thomas Aquinas was pathetic as a philosopher, and you know it. He didn't contribute to the Renaissance one bit. The Renaissance was actually brought on by a rise in humanism, that old enemy of faith. The artists continued making religious works of art to avoid condemnation by the authorities, but were hardly Christian in their personal lives. Da Vinci was probably gay.

    Tell me what advances were made by your pious friends between 400 AD and 1500 AD?

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    Stribog, I will get back to your arguments. Right now I've been busy and have not been able to to reply to this lately. Although I can assure you I have refuted much of you wrote here!

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    The Greco-Roman pagans as well as Northern European had vague, tolerant, sunny polytheism, and, unlike Christians, never claimed to have a monopoly on “truth”; it was the Church’s monopoly on the said “truth” that ultimately led to the total extermination of folkish, indigenous religious and their adherents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stríbog
    European heathenism and paganism have theologies, but no developed ethos or philosophy. They are actually quite primitive and intellectually sterile relics of a period in time when virtually all Europeans had achieved very little of what we would call civilization. Viking wannabes and fetishists notwithstanding, berserkers running around looting and raping and pillaging is not something I want to be associated with. Am I of Scandinavian ancestry? Yes. Does it make me feel compelled to make up silly pagan pseudonyms and some stupid username like AryanHeilOdinVikingWarriorMjöllnir? No. Everyone's ancestors were savages at some point, but actually revelling in that fact is quite bizarre, especially for people who want to talk about civilization. Ancient Greeks had quite a crude religion as well, but I don't see any Zeusian temples or Apollonian oracles around. Why should we take Thor and Odin any more seriously? They are no more real than Zeus or Apollo, or any other pagan deities in any cultures. I understand and approve of wanting to preserve them as ancestral symbols for posterity's sake, but trying to keep them around as a legitimate religion is frankly asinine. Most pagans and heathens today aren't even racialist; they are fat 30-something guys who live in their parents' basement, read Lord of the Rings books and play Dungeons and Dragons.

    Nor is Christianity any better. It didn't civilize the heathens, it just replaced their silly primitive deities with other silly primitive deities from somewhere else. It was just as scientifically backwards and socially barbaric as any other religion. It stifled learning and progress just as other dogmatic religions do. Paganism is no better off in this regard; Socrates was put to death for lacking piety towards the Gods, after all. Pagans seem to think that they are innocent victims of evil Christian persecution and that pre-Christian Europe was some kind of paradise. Furthermore, they want to deny that paganism was anti-progress, dogmatic and hostile to other religions itself. All organized religions end up bringing out these base human instincts: greed, lust for power, pride, arrogance, conquest, etc. Internecine wars would just as surely have occurred under paganism as under Christianity. They would have just been fought under a different pretense. All wars are really started about the same things: land, money, power. Everything else is just for show. Religions don't change a person's fundamental constitution; they only amplify or mute their inherent drives and instincts. To maintain that religions totally transform a person for better or worse and make them do things they wouldn't have otherwise is to buy in to absurd behaviorist social conditioning theories.

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