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    Exclamation It Wasn't Arabs

    It Wasn't Arabs


    "Let me count the ways..."
    --- with apologies to Elizabeth Barrett Browning

    The following email came from a list member this morning: "Today's Jews are far from perfect! But their enemies are my enemies too. I detest the Arabs. To my way of thinking they are two-faced butchers. It seems as though most of the world's terrorists come from their countries."

    I got a little carried away with my response, I confess. It felt cleansing, somehow, to list all the reasons why this person was wrong. Maybe it was my being included in the SPLC's recent "List of 40 to Watch," meaning right wingers they have targeted for elimination, wherein I was labeled an anti-semite. (You want anti-semite? I'll give you anti-semite!) Here is my response, in full:

    I haven't the degree of antipathy you feel for Arabs, despite a couple that I would willingly have dispatched, had it been legal. Nor do I have any particular love for them, other than that normally reserved for the underdog. Your hatred seems born of something quite apart from personal experience. Here is just part of the basis for my outlook:

    It wasn't Arabs who tried to steal my law practice - it was a jew.
    It wasn't Arabs who threatened to kill my children and wife - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who threatened to kill me - and continue to do so with regularity - it was/is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who screwed the stockholders of the company I worked for in SF - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who fill my email inbox with pornographic spam - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who send all those viruses to me over the Internet - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who try to get my ISP to cancel my internet access - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who periodically forge mass spam mailings to so many, using my domain name - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who send me all that incredibly vituperative, irrational and pornographic hate mail - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who blocked my PayPal account and stole the balance it contained - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who painted a bullseye on my chest by labeling me one of "40 to watch" - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have made it all but impossible for me to work as a lawyer - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who maintain a dossier on me and draw from it to defame me on every venue possible - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who have been bent upon bankrupting and imprisoning so many that I know - it was and is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have arrested and imprisoned Chester Doles as a felon in possession of a gun, though he is no felon and owned no guns - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who indicted David Duke on tax evasion charges that were pure speculation, forcing a plea deal and a 1-year prison sentence because he dared not go before a jury - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who arrested Artie Wheeler for domestic terrorism because he had firearm reloading equipment and supplies - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who arrested and imprisoned Christine Greenwood for distributing clothing to needy white children - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who sued and bankrupted Richard Butler because he provided shelter to some derelicts who stupidly shot at some people - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who had Ernst Zundel deported to Canada - it was jews - where he now stands accused of thought crimes - by jews - for which he could get deported again, to Germany, where he will be tried for more thought crimes - by jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who sued and bankrupted Tom Metzger because one of his followers stupidly killed another - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have hijacked my government - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have hijacked the American legal system and now are transforming it to conform to Talmudic law - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who own and run the Federal Reserve Bank, which is in the process of destroying the dollar and the American economy - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs rigging the US stock market and commodities futures markets - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who sent our military into Afghanistan and Iraq - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who refuse to serve in the US Military in numbers proportionate to their population percentage - it is jews (1/10 of 1%, vs. 2-1/2%).
    It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove the Ten Commandments from that Alabama courthouse, had Judge Moore removed from the bench and now seek to disbar him - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who sue to remove nativity scenes from public venues - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who erect menorahs in public venues in place of crosses - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who sued to remove group prayer from public schools - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs suing to remove decorative lights from schools at Christmas - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who refuse to allow children to say grace over their school lunches - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who continue to impose affirmative action upon us in all walks of life - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who began and continue to expand militant feminism - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who buy off all our legislators with our own tax dollars - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who tried to sink the USS Liberty and killed and maimed so many of its crewmembers during an extended attack - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs enacting hate crime laws designed to outlaw criticism of themselves - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who run NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs suing to force us to allow homosexuals to lead boy scout troops - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who started and ran so many black organizations like the NAACP - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs importing huge numbers of Somalians and Bantu into American cities - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who formulated American legislation providing pensions to Russian jewish immigrants for doing nothing - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who run organized crime throughout America - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who import tons of drugs into America every day - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who literally own and run all of Hollywood's moviemaking enterprise - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who literally own and run all of America's mainstream media - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs spewing obscenity and race-mixing propaganda from the TV and movie screens - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs trying mightily to block release of the Mel Gibson movie, "The Passion" - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs lying about and guilt tripping us with "the holocaust" - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs stealing American tax dollars to fund all their holocaust monuments throughout America - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who forged the Anne Frank "diary" - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who lied about gas chambers at Dachau and Auschwitz - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who lied about mass graves at Treblinka - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who lied about jews being made into lamp shades and soap during WWII - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who doctored WWII prison camp photos to appear to be belching smoke from crematoria - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who used WWII pictures of dead non jews, claiming they were jews - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who made anti-semitical talk punishable by death in Russia after they took power - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who killed over 20 million Russian Christians - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who looted and destroyed the Russian economy - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have amassed an illegal arsenal of over 300 nuclear weapons in the Middle East - it is the jews.
    It isn't Arabs who brag about controlling America - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who advocate the use of torture by and on Americans - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who twist American laws to punish anti-semitical speech - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs endeavoring to get America to outlaw anti-semitical speech - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who sell goods that it is illegal in America to boycott - it is Israeli jews.
    It isn't Arabs who extort "fees" for allowing their kosher label on goods - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who retaliate against rock-throwing children by shooting them in the head - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs stealing land in Palestine - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who ran down Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer - it was a jew.
    It isn't Arabs who have caused America to spend $2.5 trillion ($31,250 per American family) in the Middle East - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who send teams of trained assassins into foreign countries, including America, to kill people with whom Israel disagrees - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who run the ADL, which maintains dossiers on thousands of law-abiding American citizens, for the purpose of punishing those with whom they disagree - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who break into and enter the offices and homes of law-abiding American citizens, to procure evidence both for their database and in the hopes of getting evidence they can pass to the FBI for prosecution - it is jews.
    It isn't Arabs who have caused America to go from being the most-loved country in the world to the most hated - it is jews.

    Finally, though most won't believe it (all the preceding are facts - provable facts):
    It isn't Arabs who regularly phony up "hate crimes" against themselves - it is jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who caused the Great Depression - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who started WWI - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who started WWII - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who killed JFK - it was jews.
    It wasn't Arabs who demolished the World Trade Center - it was jews.
    It isn't Arabs bent upon destroying Christianity - it is jews.

    And, lest we forget:
    It wasn't Arabs who had Jesus Christ crucified - it was jews.



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    Most of the problems listed are the work of Jews and their willing Gentile servants, who happen to be Judeo-Christian.

    Anti-Arab sentiment is so Bushite. More acts of terrorism originate in South America by communists than by Arabs or Muslims.

    I'd guess most of the anti-Arab people have never met many Arabs. Arabs are for the most part middle to upper class citizens, good students and highly educated. Their behavior can be rude at times, but it's probably the norm where they are from. Arabs make up only 25% of American Muslims, Pakistanis are the majority.

    Every war needs a boogeyman for the simple-minded white trash and low-IQ ghetto negroids who populate the US military to hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    Most of the problems listed are the work of Jews and their willing Gentile servants, who happen to be Judeo-Christian.

    Anti-Arab sentiment is so Bushite. More acts of terrorism originate in South America by communists than by Arabs or Muslims.

    I'd guess most of the anti-Arab people have never met many Arabs. Arabs are for the most part middle to upper class citizens, good students and highly educated. Their behavior can be rude at times, but it's probably the norm where they are from. Arabs make up only 25% of American Muslims, Pakistanis are the majority.

    Every war needs a boogeyman for the simple-minded white trash and low-IQ ghetto negroids who populate the US military to hate.
    Sorry but i disagree..
    I have met MANY arabs in my country and the impression and their acts were not really an example.
    They are intollerant and they think they are the best and they have the right to change the whole world at their own shape.
    U would not believe what's the opinion of the arabs about white women, at the best they are "good for fun"...
    And i've heard these words with my own ears while i was in Scandinavia.
    We have many minorities here, chinese, indian, latinoamerican.. but in some way the arabs/muslims are the ones that commit most of the crimes.. ask to my fellow Italians here and they will confirm that.
    I don't mean they are all bad and that Bush did a good thing bombing Iraq.. it was clearly a money driven war and nithign else.
    Still in Europe they are the main problem right now as they refuse to integrate and have no respect for the culture and traditions of the countries where they are living.

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesta Bellica
    Sorry but i disagree..
    I have met MANY arabs in my country and the impression and their acts were not really an example.
    They are intollerant and they think they are the best and they have the right to change the whole world at their own shape.
    U would not believe what's the opinion of the arabs about white women, at the best they are "good for fun"...
    And i've heard these words with my own ears while i was in Scandinavia.
    We have many minorities here, chinese, indian, latinoamerican.. but in some way the arabs/muslims are the ones that commit most of the crimes.. ask to my fellow Italians here and they will confirm that.
    I don't mean they are all bad and that Bush did a good thing bombing Iraq.. it was clearly a money driven war and nithign else.
    Still in Europe they are the main problem right now as they refuse to integrate and have no respect for the culture and traditions of the countries where they are living.
    GB I respect your experiences but tell me where most of these Arabs come from please. North Africa? "Arab" is more a linguistic description than a true racial or even cultural one. Levantine Arabs (Syrians, Lebanese Jordanians) are in my experience quite different socially from Tunisians, Egyptians and Morocans et al. I have definitely not found that Levantine Arabs conform to the criminal venial type you describe, rather I find them to be more as Ladygoeth describes: middle-to-upper-middle class and highly educated by and large. They also have a well-developed sense of decorum (a little loud yes, but decent for sure).

    About the sexist and chauvinist attitudes you have encountered- well that may be true however remember that such traits are not unique to any one people. All societies have their fair share of idiots and retards - watch the Gerry Springer show lately?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1
    GB I respect your experiences but tell me where most of these Arabs come from please. North Africa? "Arab" is more a linguistic description than a true racial or even cultural one. Levantine Arabs (Syrians, Lebanese Jordanians) are in my experience quite different socially from Tunisians, Egyptians and Morocans et al. I have definitely not found that Levantine Arabs conform to the criminal venial type you describe, rather I find them to be more as Ladygoeth describes: middle-to-upper-middle class and highly educated by and large. They also have a well-developed sense of decorum (a little loud yes, but decent for sure).

    About the sexist and chauvinist attitudes you have encountered- well that may be true however remember that such traits are not unique to any one people. All societies have their fair share of idiots and retards - watch the Gerry Springer show lately?
    Well the majority come from Maghreb that's true, but not the overwhelming majority.. some muslims here are from Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Albania, Bosnia etc... and they exactly act the same.
    We pratically have pratically no Saudi arabians or Qatar (for example) people here, they are the elite.. but compare the numerical consistence of this elite with the rest.. they are really few.
    I don't doubt about your words, it's possible that some Levantine come in the USA for studying and that their behaviour is good.
    But in Italy the situation is different.. for example i can say that the jews never had a strong influence here but we all know how influential they were in the building of modern America..

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Scandinavian women are slutty. I don't think it's just a stereotype. Instead of being mad at Arabs for acknowledging their sluttiness, why not be mad at the sluts?

    I always had problems with Chaldeans, who are Christian. They are very self-righteous. A Chaldean guy told me he and his friends attacked Muslim Arabs because it's the Christian thing to do to "defend their faith." In America, only 23% of Arabs are Muslim, the majority are Catholic of Lebanese origin. Maybe Arabs in Europe are of different origin and so behave differently. Saying all the Arab world is the same is like saying all Slavics have the same mannerisms and behavior. Not true.

    I also refuse to integrate into American culture and I'm a native.

    Albanians and Bosnians do not behave identical to Arabs- different race, different culture, different style of belief.

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    What do you base that generalisation on? Have you had any personal experience when it comes to Scandinavian women. Hearsay will not do.

    Living as "sambos" (=co-habitees) is common in Scandinavia. That does for example not make Scandinavian women slutty. It is seen as liberation and independence.

    Just because many Scandinavian women feel comfortable talking about most things with men does not make them slutty. Many foreigners (mostly Turks and Arabs) make the mistake of thinking that, as they compare with patriarchal (e.g. in among Kurds in Southeastern Turkey) socities and how mothers and sisters are viewed there. Most Swedish guys do not care what their sisters do, while you would be scared to look at a Turkish girl (as if you care ) when cousins, brothers, father and uncles might attack you.

    Scandinavian women are comfortable with their sexuality and may have less issues with approaching men. Sexual issues are discussed in the open rather than to not talk about them as in e.g. Catholic Ireland. Scandinavia is known for gender equality. Do you think that is bad? I do not like Feminism either, at least in the sense of wanting to erase all the natural differences between men and women.

    I cannot deny that some Scandinavian women become very different during the summers. That is especially the case when the behaviour change and they head south and play around with dark, exotic Greek men. Those Greeks just use the Nordic naivety. I have heard some rather disturbing stories from Swedish teenage girls.

    Scandinavian guys are more submissive and passive. They do not make much noise, unless they drink some Absolut Vodka Citron . The reserved behaviour is fine as long as there is no competition (Alpha males etc.). Scandinavian men are probably great husbands. So those girls miss on a lot then .

    Keep in mind that Britain has far and away the highest teenage pregancy rate in Europe. Britain is very stratified though.


    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    Scandinavian women are slutty. I don't think it's just a stereotype. Instead of being mad at Arabs for acknowledging their sluttiness, why not be mad at the sluts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladygoeth33
    Scandinavian women are slutty. I don't think it's just a stereotype. Instead of being mad at Arabs for acknowledging their sluttiness, why not be mad at the sluts?

    I always had problems with Chaldeans, who are Christian. They are very self-righteous. A Chaldean guy told me he and his friends attacked Muslim Arabs because it's the Christian thing to do to "defend their faith." In America, only 23% of Arabs are Muslim, the majority are Catholic of Lebanese origin. Maybe Arabs in Europe are of different origin and so behave differently. Saying all the Arab world is the same is like saying all Slavics have the same mannerisms and behavior. Not true.

    I also refuse to integrate into American culture and I'm a native.

    Albanians and Bosnians do not behave identical to Arabs- different race, different culture, different style of belief.
    Albanians and Bosnians treat their women like cows.. thwere a re a lot of pictures here that shows albanian women at work while the guys are at home smoking and drinking coffee..
    they even sell their own relatives as prostitutes, i am not kidding...
    Maybe in the USA they act in a different way, i cannot tell it as i've been there only on holidays.
    And for the same reason i cannot talk about Chaldean, we don't have much of them here, never met any.
    I talk only for what i have seen and heard.. i assure u that it's the truth, ask to Italia Ariana what does he think about albanians
    I'll answer about scandinavian women in the next post

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    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by volksdeutsche
    What do you base that generalisation on? Have you had any personal experience when it comes to Scandinavian women. Hearsay will not do.

    Living as "sambos" (=co-habitees) is common in Scandinavia. That does for example not make Scandinavian women slutty. It is seen as liberation and independence.

    Just because many Scandinavian women feel comfortable talking about most things with men does not make them slutty. Many foreigners (mostly Turks and Arabs) make the mistake of thinking that, as they compare with patriarchal (e.g. in among Kurds in Southeastern Turkey) socities and how mothers and sisters are viewed there. Most Swedish guys do not care what their sisters do, while you would be scared to look at a Turkish girl (as if you care ) when cousins, brothers, father and uncles might attack you.

    Scandinavian women are comfortable with their sexuality and may have less issues with approaching men. Sexual issues are discussed in the open rather than to not talk about them as in e.g. Catholic Ireland. Scandinavia is known for gender equality. Do you think that is bad? I do not like Feminism either, at least in the sense of wanting to erase all the natural differences between men and women.

    I cannot deny that some Scandinavian women become very different during the summers. That is especially the case when the behaviour change and they head south and play around with dark, exotic Greek men. Those Greeks just use the Nordic naivety. I have heard some rather disturbing stories from Swedish teenage girls.

    Scandinavian guys are more submissive and passive. They do not make much noise, unless they drink some Absolut Vodka Citron . The reserved behaviour is fine as long as there is no competition (Alpha males etc.). Scandinavian men are probably great husbands. So those girls miss on a lot then .

    Keep in mind that Britain has far and away the highest teenage pregancy rate in Europe. Britain is very stratified though.

    I definitely agree with u, its not a question about being slutty but just open minded.
    i guess from the word sambo that u are swedish.. wel for what it counts i've been in Sweden twice and 6 times in Finland and so i have noticed the same things.
    Surely swedish girls and guys are wild pon holidays.. but so are Italians, Germans, Englismen, Greeks etc....
    I personally appreciate their honesty.

    The only thing thast i partly don't agree is where us aid that greeks plays with girls' naivety.
    I think it's more like a fair battle, swedish girls and guys have nothing to learn about relationship and i've met a lot of broken hearted italians too
    ha det bra

    "E tutti si scandalizzano quando sentono dire: quel tale tipo di mammifero o di uccello ormai è sparito dalla faccia della terra, non lo vedremo più; è una grave perdita. Certo, si tratta di gravissime perdite.
    Ma non sarebbe forse più grave se sparisse una comunità umana?? --Bruno Salvadori

    Seven pictures of northern European males and seven pictures of northern African males were presented randomly via a computer screen to 82 Italian female undergraduates of the University of Padua, Italy.
    Each picture depicted a full frontal face with a neutral facial expression. Participants were asked to classify each picture as either northern Italian or southern Italian.
    On average, the seven pictures depicting northern Europeans were classified as northern Italians 81% of the time. The seven pictures depicting northern Africans were classified as southern Italians 83%
    of the time.



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    They are sexually 'liberated' women. Women's 'liberation' was part of the civil rights movement in a calculated move to put (white) women in the same "oppressed" category as blacks. Of course all of that appeals to liberals. Women's liberation made more work for women and we still aren't treated as equal to men! It accomplished very little for women.

    I don't see it as a positive thing to give away one's sensuality in brief relationships to random people. It's morality that separates people from animals and we have more Puritan values here. We still have many obscure laws from the 19th century. It's funny to read those things.

    I know about all the free love in the North , I can't understand promiscuity as a societal virtue. I think it's abnormal to treat men and women as the same. Equal in terms of respect, but not to expect women and men to behave the same way.

    I know Greek men are more manly. I don't want to be treated like crap by some macho pig, but am equally disinterested in someone who is sissy. How did Scandinavian men become that way? Where have all the berserkers gone? Doing the opposite of the traditional roles is not the same as progress. I couldn't respect a wimp and wouldn't want one.

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