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    Re: AW: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie
    Iceland. Heathenry has a legal status as a religion there.
    But the question was about preservation of heathen tradition. The legal status of Heathenry in Iceland (which it also enjoys in the US, by the way) is a recent development rather than a preservation of the past.

    Not that I'm opposed to reconstruction, mind you. I think it's a wonderful thing in fact. It's just not the same as preservation.

    thehangedone's reply is much more to the point, since it addresses actual preservation.

    However, toponymy is just one aspect of preservation. Traditions of the sort Tabitha mentions are important as well.

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    Re: AW: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leofric
    But the question was about preservation of heathen tradition. The legal status of Heathenry in Iceland (which it also enjoys in the US, by the way) is a recent development rather than a preservation of the past.

    Not that I'm opposed to reconstruction, mind you. I think it's a wonderful thing in fact. It's just not the same as preservation.

    thehangedone's reply is much more to the point, since it addresses actual preservation.

    However, toponymy is just one aspect of preservation. Traditions of the sort Tabitha mentions are important as well.
    In that Case, Heathen traditions are preserved all over the world. Even the modern days of the week:

    Monday - Mani's dag, the day of the moon
    Tuesday - Tius dag / Tyrs dag, the day of Tyr
    Wendsday - Wodans dag, the day of Wodan
    Thursday - Thors dag, the day of Thor
    Friday - Friggas dag, the day of Frigga
    Saturday - Named after the Southern european god Saturn
    Sunday - Sunnas dag, the day of the Sun

    And I am sure as a Christian you celebrate Christmas with all of its original Pagan traditions. They don't have pine trees in Isreal.

    If you go to Iceland you would see that the country is still very much Heathen, you would even meet Christian priests who still believe in Land spirits, Wights, Elves ect ect. You don't get anymore preserved than Christian priests still having some faith in ancient folklore.
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    Re: AW: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Quote Originally Posted by :hveğrungur:
    If you go to Iceland you would see that the country is still very much Heathen, you would even meet Christian priests who still believe in Land spirits, Wights, Elves ect ect. You don't get anymore preserved than Christian priests still having some faith in ancient folklore.
    That's pretty good preservation indeed! Very impressive!

    Go Iceland!

    I'd love to read some Christian sermons on wights!

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    AW: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    I dont know how it is Iceland, but I can say that in Germany/Austria there is nothing left of the old ways, except certain day names. It makes me wonder how it came that they changed Wodanstag, the day of one of our most important gods to Mittwoch. Ostern (Easter) has nothing to do with the heathen feast anymore. It has been converted to an utterly christian feast. The only thing that I know that could be heathen about easter was, that painted eggs were hidden in the forest or garden and the children had to search for them. People also used to have a bunch of willow catkins, that were blessed by the priest at the sunday mass before easter, in their houses. Somewhere I read that these willow catkins are related to an ancient celtic rite and had something to do with fertility. Today such traditions are only existant in rural areas any more. People who live in cities are too busy with consuming usless things, that they could practice any rites or traditions, besides that there are so many foreigners there who dont have any relation to our heathen traditions anyway. The sad thing is, that even where the people still practice them they dont know the true meaning of the rites, they just do it because they have ever done it or believe what the church tells them.

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    Re: AW: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Well, just using the word Ostern is better from a preservation point of view than the Norwegian Påske (though I think she wasn't worshipped in Scandinavia, in which case it would be silly to expect the Scandinavians to preserve her name in the feast — they never would have had it in the first place).

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    Re: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    I would trump for Iceland as well.

    The average Englishman, sadly, has little knowledge of the origins of his people let alone our native traditions.

    I doubt Heathenry is ever going to be a major faith in England, but English folk lore contains much from both Germanic and Celtic lore.
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    Re: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Quote Originally Posted by æşeling View Post
    I would trump for Iceland as well.

    The average Englishman, sadly, has little knowledge of the origins of his people let alone our native traditions.

    I doubt Heathenry is ever going to be a major faith in England, but English folk lore contains much from both Germanic and Celtic lore.
    Second that, word by word.

    Back home, in Austria, the memory of our gods has been eradicates as good as. Nobody knows anymore that the Wild Hunt is the thing that gave rise to the "Perchtenlauf", most tales and legends are thoroughly CHristian, especially in Tyrol, where I live.

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    Re: Which Germanic Folk has preserved most Heathen tradition?

    Iceland and the other Norse countries have the best preserved by far. This is not just in the common beliefs in elves and such that have survived, but literary as well. The Eddas, sagas, skaldic poetry all provide much info. The English are not as fortunate, and we find ourselves scrabbling for the barest mention of a God or Goddess in what little was left.

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