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    Lightbulb Mogoloid Spots, Evidence of Mongoloid/Negro Admixture

    Mongolian-Spot
    Alias : Mongolian Spot is a macular blue grey pigmentation ·
    Incidence : in 90 % of children of mongoloid race and 1 % in caucasians in Europe and 80% in East africa
    Environment : normal infants of Mongoloid and some other races
    Age : present at birth
    Aetiology : pigmentation develops in foetal life
    Symptoms : after birth increase and later less obvious to disappear at age 7 and always at age 13 - seldom persists to later life

    http://home.tiscali.nl/sb137765/G.M3.html

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    GERMANY

    ''Until this day it can be observed that some children born in an area around Berlin in Germany wear the blue Mongoloid spot at birth at the bases of their spines. Attila and his army had traveled through there, although his soldiers didn't rape the women and kill the men in that part of Germany. History has it that the soldiers under the command of one of his generals went AWOL after they had suffered a defeat in another part of Northern Germany and were on retreat. They hid in the woods and were eventually taken in and assimilated by the local population in that area where we now have Berlin. Obviously they were well-liked; therefore today's blue spots at the base of the spine of some babies born around Berlin and elsewhere.''

    http://www.fathersforlife.org/fatherhood/attila.htm

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    MEXICO....

    Islas DL, Flores FG
    Frecuencia de la mancha mongólica en niños recién nacidos

    Rev Mex Pediatr 2002; 69(4): 144-145.



    RESUMEN


    Objetivo. Conocer la frecuencia de la mancha mongólica en neonatos nacidos en un hospital general. Material y métodos. Durante siete meses se examinaron en el hospital 3,760 niños recién nacidos. Todos fueron revisados en las primeras 24 horas de vida. Resultados. Se encontró en 208 (5.5%) niños. Predominó su localización en la región sacra (65.6%), lumbosacra (25.9%) y lumbar (7.6%). La mancha mongólica de localización aberrante se observó con una frecuencia de 8.6%. Conclusiones. La frecuencia registrada fue menor que la informada por otros autores. Sin embargo, la localización aberrante de la mancha es ligeramente mayor que la reportada en la literatura.


    Palabras clave: Mancha mongólica, dermatosis en neonatos.

    http://www.imbiomed.com/SocPed/Spv69...sp0024-05.html



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    URUGUAY....



    URUGUAYOS DESCENDIENTES DE LOS CHARRUAS AYER Y HOY

    Actualmente existen en nuestro país, decenas de miles de descendientes de Charrúas, y la mayoría de ellos no tiene conocimiento de los lazos familiares, aunque lejanos, que los unen a esos ancestros. Como prueba de ello mencionaremos tres sólidas argumentaciones:

    A) Estudios realizados por la Dra. Mónica Sans:

    La antropóloga Dra. Mónica Sans realizó diversos estudios sobre el tema "Aporte Indígena a la Población Actual", en estrecha colaboración con la Asociación de Descendientes de la Nación Charrúa – Asoc. Civil -,pero nos referiremos solo al punto del mestizaje encontrado a través del rasgo denominado "Mancha Mongólica".

    Esta mancha se presenta desde el nacimiento prácticamente en el 100% de los amerindios y en sus descendientes, también en el 80% de poblaciones africanas y sus descendientes. En cambio en poblaciones europeas y sus descendientes apenas llega al un 10%.



    http://www.internet.com.uy/charruas/...ayer_y_hoy.htm



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    PORTUGAL....



    As manchas mongólicas são máculas azul-acinzentadas de tonalidade variável e de margens irregulares que surgem à nascença ou pouco tempo depois. A localização mais frequente é a região lombo-sagrada, podendo ocorrer nas nádegas, coxas, dorso e ombros. Está presente em mais de 80% dos recém-nascidos de raça negra ou mongólica, daí o nome!
    Na raça caucasiana apenas 10% dos recém-nascidos estão afectados. Num estudo realizado numa maternidade portuguesa, a mancha mongólica foi encontrada em 22% dos recém-nascidos. A cor das manchas deve-se à localização dérmica de melanócitos cheios de melanina, que detiveram a sua migração da crista neural para a epiderme.
    Geralmente desaparecem na primeira infância.

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    Brazil

    Mancha mongólica - mancha de cor azulada, localizada geralmente em região sacrococcígia,

    que significa miscigenação das raças.

    http://www.londrina.pr.gov.br/saude/...ownloads/9.pdf



    "Todo brasileiro, mesmo o alvo, de cabelo louro, traz na alma, quando não na alma e no corpo - há muita gente de jenipapo ou mancha mongólica pelo Brasil - a sombra, ou pelo menos a pinta, do indígena ou do negro".

    Gilberto Freyre

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    http://ethnomed.org/ethnomed/clin_to...nted_main.html

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    What is really a Mongolian spot? Pigmention? Eeh.?

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    This may hint at a connection between Capoid, Mongoloid and Sinanthropus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifilis
    What is really a Mongolian spot? Pigmention? Eeh.?
    The Mongolian spot: a study of ethnic differences and a literature review.

    Cordova A.

    Four hundred thirty-seven consecutively born full-term neonates, delivered at Jackson Memorial Hospital, were examined for the presence of mongolian spots (MS). The spots were found in 96% of the Negro children, 46% of the Hispanic children, 9.5% of the Caucasian children, and in both of the Asian children in the series. The sacro-gluteal region was the most frequent site of pigmentation, with the shoulders next in frequency. Almost all the spots on the extremities were located on the extensor surfaces. The color was most frequently blue-green, but was also commonly greenish-blue, blue-gray, or brown. In a concurrent review of 124 newborn records, MS was not described by house officers in any, although the probability of its occurrence would have been approximately 90 cases, based on the results of the study. A comprehensive review of the history of the description of MS and theories of its development, as well as a review of the clinical aspects, is presented.

    PMID: 7028354 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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    I didn't have one.

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    Post Re: Mogoloid Spots, evidence of mongoloid/negro admixture

    this "blue back" finds itself most commonly in mongols, turkmens, turks, and some greeks, oddly enough never a case of an armenian having it

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    Post Re: Mogoloid Spots, evidence of mongoloid/negro admixture

    Hmm, weird, the mongolian spot is so common? Well, at least chinese and most turkics don't have it, which made it a useful marker for distinguishing "mongolness" of a newborn child in olden times...

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    Post Re: Mogoloid Spots, evidence of mongoloid/negro admixture

    I remember having a spot at the base of my spine when I was like 13-14 yrs old. It appeared then, was there during the time I was quickly growing taller, and later it disappeared completely.

    Maybe I'm a son of a hun Does it qualify at that age?

    I also had such a spot on my calve when I was a kid.
    I had it up until I was 10-11

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    Post Re: Mogoloid Spots, evidence of mongoloid/negro admixture

    Nope, the spot appears with a newborn and stays for a couple of weeks, not more. Maybe you had bruises or something.

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    Thumbs Up Re: Mogoloid Spots, evidence of mongoloid/negro admixture

    Quote Originally Posted by Dome
    Nope, the spot appears with a newborn and stays for a couple of weeks, not more. Maybe you had bruises or something.
    Could be, I was growing very quickly at that time. The mark disappeared when I stopped growing so fast. Thanks anyway.

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