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    Scotland Versus England

    What are your thoughts on Scotland's refusal to support England in the World Cup? Personally I think it's ridiculous and results of the lack of confidence among the Scots & the First Minister hasn't helped by refusing to support the England team.
    This has led to a number of racial attacks, one on a disabled man and one on a seven year old boy who were wearing English football tops.
    When the Scots fail to reach the World Cup,why can't we then get behind another British team?

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    I wondered that myself. I'd support Wales or Scotland if England was out of it.
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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    I'm not that bothered by it. I was quite happy to return the compliment by laughing my arse off as Andrew Murray got knocked out of wimbledon.

    The attack on the child, on the other hand, was so far out of order it's not even funny.
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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    Morally i understand their choice as i don't support Italy that much as well (being Northern italian and having just 3 players out of 23 from northern Italy in the team).
    if iw as Scottish i would not care about England

    Neverthless physical attacks are not acceptable, expecially for a futile reason like a football competition that surely won't change the destiny of a nation..even in case of final victory

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    I would not go so far as to call them racist attacks. Nationality perhaps.

    Regardless, there is no need to go out and attack someone over this tripe. It really is a shame.

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    It's strange that the Scots feel so resentful towards the English. They were granted independence, after all.

    I can remember watching a BBC news segment which took place during the world cup, where a reporter drove a car adorned with English flags and symbols through some working-class area of Glasgow. Within a few minutes a few Scottish youths smashed in all the windows and started jumping up and down on top of it.

    In Wales we couldn't care less. Most Welsh people I know were openly supporting England in the World Cup - Wales didn't qualify this year. The others who claimed that they weren't probably were supporting them silently. I went to the local pub to watch most of the matches, and many people were wearing English football jerseys without any problem at all. There were even some English flags draped next to the TV.

    I'm a quarter English, but I think we should all support a British team where possible. I don't understand the mentality behind attacking vulnerable English people. There is a lot of poverty and drugs in areas of Scotland, but even so, that can't be blamed on the English. And it's pretty deplorable to attack children and the disabled. I don't understand this 'thuggish' behaviour by the Scots.

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    The perception in England overall, seems to be that the Welsh have a healthier pride in their nationalism, and they are keeping the Welsh language alive which most would see as positive.

    The Scottish on the other hand are perceived as having a chip on their shoulder and defining themselves in terms of (in opposition to) the English. The Scottish concentrate on their military history at the espense of England, instead of a broader understanding. I suppose Scottish nationalism could be seen as excessively masculine and violent.

    By contrast, the Welsh are seen as placid and good-natured, if a little eccentric. There is no real invective behind Welsh jokes.

    IMHO if Wales were in the World Cup and England were not, then most English would support Wales. But far less English would support Scotland in the same situation.

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    Quote Originally Posted by The Nausea
    I think we should all support a British team where possible.
    Absolutely, we're all British, after all. And that's a mighty fine thing to be. I'm all in favour of each nation preserving it's unique culture, but we should stand together when the chips are down.
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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    As an Englishman I will always put England first, However as a Brit I will also support my fellow British nations, including Scotland. As a white man I will support every other white nation on earth.

    When English or Scots attack one another it is NOT RACIAL. We are of the same stock so how can it be racial, it may be cultural, but certainly not racial. If a Jamaican attacked a Sierra Leonian, that wouldnt be racial either.

    The anti-White anti-English media is to blame for stiring troubel between the white people. They are using a divide and conquer tactic. Together we a powerful and they know it.

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    Re: Scotland Versus England

    I subscribe to the same view as most of the above offerings. We are all in it together and should support each other. I should add that Scotland doesn't have independence as stated by one contributor. Unless the nation takes collective leave of its senses, I hope that we will remain British. I certainly will regardless.

    It is an ignorance of what and who we are that causes half the problems we suffer from right now. Bringing people into the country with totally different value judgements, culture, language and religion, for example, is one reason why we currently have hundreds of potential terrorists here masquerading (and, worse, being described by the Press) as 'British'. They do not consider themselves British, so why should we?

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