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    What Are the Differences Between the Dinarid and the Armenid Type?

    What are the main differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type? ,except the pigmentation. I'm aware of those that various anthropologists have pointed out, but none seem to be noticeable.

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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Dinarid race is taller than armenid. Never seen any Armenid, from whom you could say thats a big human. Also the noses differ, the armenid nose is others. The armenid eyes are bigger than dinaric. The armenid character is way far from the european dinaric character. Them armenids are semi oriental-semi caucasian people in their way of beeing. The dinaric race is common european in its behaviour, european minds, european way of thinking, everythin besides the look.

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    From my view the Armenid Nose is more convex and larger and their faces are longer.

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Armenids are larger-faced and -nosed, and darker-pigmented, and not as tall as Dinarids.

    Coon, who had his own (simplified) view of the process of dinaricization, theorized that the essential distinction between Dinarid ("Dinaric") and Armenid ("Armenoid") lay in the nature of the Mediterranid ("Mediterranean") contribution, Atlanto-Mediterranid ("Atlanto-Mediterranean") or similar (e.g. Pontid) in Dinarid, Iranid ("Irano-Afghan) in Armenid.

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    There is no way that dinarics are related in any way with armenoids. Just take look at this picture.



    Here on this picture you have a team from Armenia (in red dresses), and a team from Serbia (in yellow dresses). I think that difference is obvious!

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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    ??

    Bad example if you ask me. The "Serbs" look everyithing else but not dinaric, the Armenians have 3 - 5 team players who come near to armenid.

    Somebody must post a typical armenid and dinarid pic of individuals, so we can talk further.

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Dinarid according to Coon


    Armenid according to Coon


    IMO it's quite hard to find stabilised Taurid forms, as IMO Dinarisation and Armenisation are more processes than real sub-types.

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    Grin AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Look here i think this is more than enough to answer it:

    "the Armenoid and Dinaric types can look very similar due to the facial features and relatively brunet pigmentation, though the Armenoid is said to be somewhat darker in pigmentation, and with slightly more pronounced features, though there is overlap. I personally think that both types share a common parent type or evolved from a similar source, hence their commonalities."

    "Traditionally, Dinarics and Armenoids are regarded as both being Taurid types, meaning they represent the crossing of a longheaded type (usually a brunet type like Atlanto-Mediterranean or Cappadocian or Irano-Afghan) with a broadheaded one (Alpine or Borreby). They are only related inasmuch as their parent types are related."

    "Dinarics often have broad faces, relatively flat skulls, tall stocky builds, and long and more or less inclined noses and short arms. There is a fair mix of brunettes, blonds and brown-haired individuals in the Dinaric group and their skins are usually rosey to olive. Male members have a robust, or rustic look while the females tend to be more masculine.

    The Armenoid race' is similar to Dinaric race the only difference is that they have a darker pigmentation due to racial mixture Mediterranean race and the Irano-Afghan race. Both of the Mediterranean race came When the Arabs invaded the Caucasus. Today 90% of the people of the Caucasus belong to this sub-race of the Caucasian race. It's pure form is found in the Northern Caucasus, people such as the Avars and Chechens belong to it. Sometimes they are known as the true Caucasians. They are relativly tall people, have a flat face, with large round eyes ranging from green to black, and a high nose. Sometimes it's hooked nose this due to the intermarriage with the Iranians of the region such as the Taylish, Kurds, Persians, and the Tats."

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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Short description following C. Vogel:
    The nose of the typical Armenids is rather broader, fleshy and differently formed. The mouth is rather broad too, the lips, especially the lower, unusual formed, the chin is not strong, mostly neutral, the palbebral fissure is thick and fleshy too with a hanging lower eyelid. Hairs are more wavy and less simple than in most typical Europids.

    There are fluent borders between Dinarid and Armenid in the Caucasus and Anatolia (Mtebid/Kaukasid being in some aspects even closer to Dinarid, Anadolids having at least some traits in common with Dinarids, are finally between Dinarid-Mediterranid-Armenid proper and overall Armenoid. But the typical Armenids show a different face and body.

    Dinarids are tall, have a strong facial relief, strong-prominent chin, a hooked nose quite often, whereas Armenids have especially in later age a rather undifferentiated face with hanging eyes, fat deposits, hanging lower lip and hanging nose, in fact the whole face looks in typical Armenids like hanging rather than sharp like the Dinarid.

    Compare a typical Dinarid from Coon with a typical Armenid. Many of Coons Dinarids are not that typical, as are a lot of his examples not as good as those of other authors. His concept of Dinarids was rather wrong too and following it he partly has chosen worse examples than he could (to show the Alpinoid influence in "Dinarics" I guess...)
    So I used just the better matches, like this classic-typical Dinarid:


    Typical more refined Norid for comparison:


    All examples from here:
    http://med1nuc11.dfc.unifi.it/linnet...exts/index.htm

    Now typical Armenids (Coon used the term Armenoid and did right so even if not intending, since he included a lot in it...compare with the suffix system):

    Extreme Armenid type:


    Though this site includes some propaganda, the basic anthropological information is valuable and comes mostly from the work of Baker:
    http://wsi.matriots.com/What%20is%20a%20Jew.html
    Armenids being described there sufficiently.

    The original Taurid groups were all rather herders of the mountainous regions, or specialised groups of quite warlike character, in a way not that dissimilar from Nordids, Cromagnids and tall Mediterranids in the flat lands.
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=44114

    More in this German thread, including more examples for Dinarids:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=47945

    Like I said, the border between Dinarid and Armenoid is fluent in some areas, but the difference between a typical Dinarid and Armenid is very clear with the latter having lost his original strong physique and being rather a reduced and somewhat degenerated (physically at least) sedentary and urban variant.

    Compare with this:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=60124
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=60537

    and
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=61210

    So Dinarids are European mountainous herder variants one could say, intermediate and unreduced Armenoids the same in the Asian areas, with Armenid proper being a different adaptation, though like its the case with Alpinisation, there are different degrees of reduction and pyknomorphisation, some Armenids show still a certain "herder character", whereas others being typical sedentary and urban variants, a one sided social specialisation rather.

    In Anatolia the border is though somewhat fluent still quite clear between Dinarid and Anadolid, in the Caucasus its very fluent with no clear border since the Mtebid/Kaukasid type is close and rather Dinaroid even - hard to judge to which form he is closer. But interestingly thats only hard to judge if going to the groups in the Northern Caucasus area and highland herders, not so in the cities of Georgia and Armenia as much, in which typical Armenids are already much more common...

    Possible sources for the different racial types:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php...62&postcount=6

    One could speak even more in detail about Armenids, this should be enough so far.
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    Re: AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

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    Bad example if you ask me. The "Serbs" look everyithing else but not dinaric, the Armenians have 3 - 5 team players who come near to armenid.

    Somebody must post a typical armenid and dinarid pic of individuals, so we can talk further.

    I was just mading a point that Armenoids do not belong to Aryan (Europoid) race. O.K?
    By the way, more pictures of typical Armenoids:

















    No nude pictures of that kind in this section - belongs into the adult one



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