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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    @Janos Hunyadi

    His father was an Iranian Armenian and his mother American as far as I know.

    His head shape is not a good armenoid example imo.

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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyht View Post
    @Janos Hunyadi

    His father was an Iranian Armenian and his mother American as far as I know.

    His head shape is not a good armenoid example imo.

    http://www.itatennis.com/EventsResul...ton_Agassi.jpg
    Of course its the opposite, metrically Irano-Nordoid category...
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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    @Agrippa

    Yes I expected this but I don’t feel to be in the position to make a more precise claim with the level of my knowledge.

    Armenian is in Iran mainly a religious term, meaning Christian, so it’s quite possible that Aghassis father had no real Armenian background anyway.

    There was a IE migration into Armenia, which probably mixed with the original Armenid population. Armenia had from one point on, an Iranian ruling class, mainly of the Parthian branch which was most likely a more Nordid-like population because of their Scytho-Aryan background.

    Just some basic background informations on the Armenians.
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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    I am curious, what happens when a subrace like the Dinarid mixes with the Pontid? For instance, the Pontid is tall, gracile and leptomorphic/leptoprosopic (hence long-faced). According to my classification, I am a Dinarid/Pontid; however, other than my Dinaric leptorrhinic, slightly convex nose, my face is predominantly Pontid, being longer and with a positive, but not particularly strong chin, and I am tall and leptomorphic. The Pontid is a Med type, and therefore prone to leptorrhiny and slight convexity (the Dinarid being more extreme in both cases) - is it easy to then detect Dinarid influences? Both Nordids and Meds have these tendencies when it comes to nasal structure - how then can Dinarid influences be seen, since both types are also long-nosed and potentially convex?

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Good question. I suppose that convexity is stronger in Dinarids, Brachycephalism or Mesocephalism might indicate Dinarid influence, aswell Dinarids are usually slightly taller than Atlanto-Pontids. Anyway let's wait for the experts' opinion.

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaico View Post
    Good question. I suppose that convexity is stronger in Dinarids, Brachycephalism or Mesocephalism might indicate Dinarid influence, aswell Dinarids are usually slightly taller than Atlanto-Pontids. Anyway let's wait for the experts' opinion.

    What is Atlanto-Pontid? Atlantid is a Western type and Pontid is Eastern, how are they combined together?

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    I still think people refer to Atlantid OR Pontid when they say Atlanto-Pontid...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanushka-Supertzar View Post
    What is Atlanto-Pontid? Atlantid is a Western type and Pontid is Eastern, how are they combined together?

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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanushka-Supertzar View Post
    What is Atlanto-Pontid? Atlantid is a Western type and Pontid is Eastern, how are they combined together?
    I refer to the Robust/Tall Mediterranid types, Atlanto-Mediterranid and Pontid. They are not the same, but are similar.

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    AW: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    They have both a lot of common and one could compare it with Skandonordid and Eastnordid in a way. Both are similar to the same if its about the basic specialisation (again like Skando- and Eastnordids). So one can group them together, which makes especially then sense if the exact designation being unclear. F.e. if a Northern Greek looks just like a tall-leptomorphic and lighter Northern Mediterranid variant, but one cannot say Atlantomediterranid or Pontid with any chance of certainty I would say Atlantopontid. If speaking about the racial specialisation I would group them together too as I do it with basic Nordids (Skando- and Eastnordid).
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    Re: What are the differences between the Dinarid and the Armenid type?

    Let's not deviate too much - could someone answer the questions raised in my post?

    PS: Off-topic, I have a question for Nicola and Ivanushka: is Matanis a Russian surname? A friend of mine claims it is, but it sounds different to every Russian surname I have ever heard.

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