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    Sv: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    Things have truly changed, an average of 1-2 children in most European countries is just horrifying when considering how many children the non white immigrants gives birth to, we will be outnumbered quietly in our own hospitals.

    I wonder though, in an eventual future race aware and homogenous Europe, what would be an ideal birth rate? Is it necessary to have a fertility rate of 7-9 children per woman? Or would it be possible to sustain a slow but steady population increase (or population survival) with a birth rate of let's say 3 children per woman?

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    Re: Sv: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik
    I wonder though, in an eventual future race aware and homogenous Europe, what would be an ideal birth rate? Is it necessary to have a fertility rate of 7-9 children per woman? Or would it be possible to sustain a slow but steady population increase (or population survival) with a birth rate of let's say 3 children per woman?
    Well, 2.1 is replacement level, of course. 7-9 is just too high for Europe, which has a relatively low death rate (including infant mortality rates). Over-population would surely follow and become a HUGE problem. I would say that 3 would be too high as well unless this future population of Europe needed its numbers boosted.... otherwise, 2.1 - maybe 2.3 would be ideal imo. That's with infant mortality rates and death rates remaining constant.

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    Re: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    http://www.photius.com/wfb1999/ranki...rtality_0.html

    Notice any correlations?

    Amazing, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie
    Well, 2.1 is replacement level, of course. 7-9 is just too high for Europe, which has a relatively low death rate (including infant mortality rates). Over-population would surely follow and become a HUGE problem. I would say that 3 would be too high as well unless this future population of Europe needed its numbers boosted.... otherwise, 2.1 - maybe 2.3 would be ideal imo. That's with infant mortality rates and death rates remaining constant.
    Yeah i figured since those african nations' populations are going through the roof. 2.1-2.3 Sounds like an achievable goal, and yet our politicians constantly tell us that we have to accept the non European immigration because we will die out otherwise...traitor scum.

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    Re: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    I'm surprised at how high Russia's and Poland's IMRs are though when you consider how low their TFRs are!! Won't be long before they're wiped out if they don't do something about it soon! (Followed closely by the rest of the civilised world!!)

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    Re: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    Yeah i figured since those african nations' populations are going through the roof. 2.1-2.3 Sounds like an achievable goal, and yet our politicians constantly tell us that we have to accept the non European immigration because we will die out otherwise...traitor scum.
    2.1 is really quite high compared to what we're used to now.... I don't know that its really that achievable with the way things are now..... with so many women delaying motherhood, or opting not to have children at all, infertility on the rise, couples limiting family size due to careers, money, not being able to cope with parenthood because so many people these days are so out of touch with babies/kids that they don't know how to raise them anymore!!!! (I think that later problem is the biggest issue!)

    One of the biggest problems with low fertility rates is that so many kids are raised as only children or with only 1 sibling.... and because not many other people in their community are having many kids either, each child will not be in the company of other children of all ages very often (unless its in an institution like daycare!!), so when they grow up and go to have their own children they find it difficult to know how to relate to them, discipline them, play with them, know what's normal and what's not etc etc. They were never around babies as teens and never had to care for them, as girls did in the old days of big families. In all, most will likely opt for only 1 or 2 children themselves as they can't cope with any more than that.... and for them it seems natural to have so few children anyway since its what they were used to growing up! I see this all the time around me. Most people look at me as though I'm a freak when they find out that I've got 3 kids!! "OMG!! How do you cope??" I hear all the time!! Well, lucky for me, I was raised in a fairly large family, and I had lots of cousins, and I was one of the older ones, so I spent a lot of my teen years baby-sitting and caring for babies and small kids. This has been a huge advantage for me as a mum now. Things that stress other mums out, I know are normal, and they generally don't bother me.... I already know what to do.

    Anyway..... To achieve a rate of 2.1, most women who are fertile and partnered (married) would need to have a lot more than 2 or 3 kids.... because the fact is that there will always be (as there always has been) women and men who are infertile, people who end up as spinsters or bachelors, people who can only afford 1 child, or maybe due to health problems etc can only have 1 child..... there are just so many factors really. So for each person that is unable to have children themselves, someone who can have kids will have to have one extra to take their place.

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    Re: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    Well, we just have to stop massive immigration from Africa then. No need to get upset.

    East Asian countries such as Japan, S Korea already have lower birthrate than EU average. The more country is rich and technologically advanced, the birthrate gets lower, it's a fact that can be observed in everyday life.

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    Re: Sv: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie
    Well, 2.1 is replacement level, of course. 7-9 is just too high for Europe, which has a relatively low death rate (including infant mortality rates). Over-population would surely follow and become a HUGE problem. I would say that 3 would be too high as well unless this future population of Europe needed its numbers boosted.... otherwise, 2.1 - maybe 2.3 would be ideal imo. That's with infant mortality rates and death rates remaining constant.
    A potential argument for neo-colonialisation, by biological imperative.

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    Re: Sv: World Fertility Rates - Stats.

    East Asian countries such as Japan, S Korea already have lower birthrate than EU average. The more country is rich and technologically advanced, the birthrate gets lower, it's a fact that can be observed in everyday life.
    Errmm.... so what is your point? That we shouldn't worry about the population of developed nations dwindling off to eventual extinction because it just shows that we're rich???? Fat lot of good that money's going to do when our people are extinct.

    Or maybe you're saying that because the SE Asians are going to our death beds with us that we shouldn't worry.... WTF??!!

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