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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Bridie
    "Us" losing won't help anyone though, so why would it be right? Justice? Suffering and destruction can never be justice. (imo) One does not discipline children by destroying them.....
    Of course not! I didn't say that "us" losing is right. Neither that we "deserve" it. Merely that we brought ourselves in this condition, suggesting that we should start acting positively to take ourselves out of it

    I can't see how blame could be constructive either. Injustices and great evils and stupid decisions were made.... but to assign blame is to prevent oneself from moving on. You know, "blame" makes people lazy and bitter. Better just to accept that these things occured and now we have to clean up the mess.
    Again, we are saying the same thing.

    By putting part of the blame on ourselves, I meant, "stop scapegoating" -not surrendering to what is coming to us thinking that we deserve it.

    Contrary, just as you say: having an objective and healthy realization as to why these things happened, and working constructively towards cleaning up the mess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    If you care for nothing but survival and you think only the Jews will survive then your solution is simple. Convert to Judaism and you will have your wish
    I made a mistake: I mean "white survival" not only "survival". I care about my own race survival. It makes no sense to become jew in order to survive, it would be like a lion trying to become a pig.

    And, I never said that "only the Jews will survive".

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis
    You see, even if we did decide to engage into racial war, we are bound to lose since we are vastly outnumbered.
    This is not necessarily true (quality and quantity...): while the battle of thromopoly was, in the end, lost; 300 vs. one million--for over a week--is something to ruminate upon...
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis
    Quality...

    Hmm..I believe that you now contradict yourself since only a few minutes ago you said that "Most members of the white race are trash."
    Thereīs no contradiction at all, in both sentences iīm saying that the number is not completely important.

    Hence, the quality you are referring to exists only in a very small sample of the white race, and it is clearly not enough to outsmart all the others.
    I think the very small sample of the white race you talk is much more than enough to outsmart all the others.

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebro
    I made a mistake: I mean "white survival" not only "survival". I care about my own race survival. It makes no sense to become jew in order to survive, it would be like a lion triyng to become a pig.
    But you think we should think and act like Jews.
    What would be the difference between us and them?
    You want to reject what makes you, you. And instead model yourself on a Jewish mindset.

    Am I correct then in saying that you have no rpoblem with the Jews other than you don't consider them "white"?
    Other than that, you are very much in favour of thinking and behaving just like them.

    What you really want is simply to re-write the Talmud so that the word "White" replaces "Jew", and "Non-White" replaces "Goyim".

    In other words, you are a White Talmudist.

    And, I never said that "only the Jews will survive".
    Ok, let's forget semantics for the moment and concentrate on what you are actually advocating.

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Suut
    This is not necessarily true (quality and quantity...): while the battle of thromopoly was, in the end, lost; 300 vs. one million--for over a week--is something to ruminate upon...
    Surely, but Leonidas & the 300 Spartans are somewhat incomparable to the average modern-day spineless, lazy, fat white slob

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis
    ...having an objective and healthy realization as to why these things happened, and working constructively towards cleaning up the mess
    Examples would help your argument ("...toward cleaning up the mess): It would be disheartening to see your sharp acumen continuously reduced to nebulous soundbites.

    Also, the term 'constructively' is a very slippery slope: for every one thing that is created, at least one thing is, and must be, destroyed.
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesian
    But you think we should think and act like Jews.
    No, I said that "chosenism" instrument is a good idea. Thatīs the unique thing in common between them and ours.

    What would be the difference between us and them?
    Everything?

    You want to reject what makes you, you.
    What??? I never rejected what makes me myself. I actually want to secure the existence, expansion and advancement of what makes me myself.

    And instead model yourself on a Jewish mindset.
    Jewish Mindset? The jewish people want to be served by other races, while I want a white world.

    They want to feel superior knowing that other races are working for them, I hate that mindset.

    Am I correct then in saying that you have no rpoblem with the Jews other than you don't consider them "white"?
    No, youīre wrong: The world that jews desire for themselves is completely different that the world that we creators desire for the white race.

    Itīs not about the same mindset on different peoples, but itīs about totally different ways of thinking, totally different goals, totally different ideals and totally different worlds we are looking for.

    Other than that, you are very much in favour of thinking and behaving just like them.
    Only in one strategic thing, and itīs not completely the same, but I donīt want to get into details.

    What you really want is simply to re-write the Talmud so that the word "White" replaces "Jew", and "Non-White" replaces "Goyim".
    No, I donīt:

    I donīt want slaves, I donīt want to be rich while other races die of hunger and work for me. I donīt want to exploit and destroy nature in order to serve my personal interests, etc, etc, etc.

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis
    Surely, but Leonidas & the 300 Spartans are somewhat incomparable to the average modern-day spineless, lazy, fat white slob
    ...I can't argue with that. An example, nonetheless.

    "Men should be trained for war, and women..." (Nietzsche) Well... we'll just leave it at that.
    "...The moral man is a lower species than the immoral, a weaker species; indeed - he is a type in regard to morality, but not a type in himself; a copy...the measure of his value lies outside him. ... I assess the power of a will by how much resistance, pain, torture it endures and knows how to turn to its advantage; I do not account the evil and painful character of existence a reproach to it, but hope rather that it will one day be more evil and painful than hitherto..." (Nietzsche)

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    Re: Manifest Destiny

    Quote Originally Posted by cerebro
    No, I said that "chosenism" instrument is a good idea.
    Chosenitism is the Talmud, thus it is the heart of what it means to be Jewish.
    It is the Jewish worldview.
    If you think that is a good thing, then that's fine.
    I just want to make it clear what it is that you subscribe too.

    Thatīs the unique thing in common between them and ours.
    Chosenitism has nothing to do with "ours".
    It is not an ideology rooted in our people.

    Everything?
    Such as?

    What??? I never rejected what makes me myself. I actually want to secure the existence, expansion and advancement of what makes me myself.
    By ditching a European worldview in favour of the Jewish worldview?
    No offense, but can you see how you are contradicting yourself here?

    Jewish Mindset? The jewish people want to be served by other races, while I want a white world.
    The Jewish mindset doesn't necessarily decree that other races must serve them. What the Jewish mindset believes is that the world was created for the Jews. Whether non-Jews live as slaves or are erdicated off the face of the earth is irrelevent to them. The earth belongs to them and that's the only important factor. Just as you want a "White World", so the Jews want a "Jewish world".

    They want to feel superior knowing that other races are working for them, I hate that mindset.
    No, that is not quite right.
    The Jews do not believe they will be superior because other races are working for them. The Jews believe they are superior because God created them so. they don't need any servitude from you to feel superior.
    They "know" they are because their God made them that way and they will always be superior to you simply because they are Jewish and you are not.
    Servitude needn't even come into it. It is simply a possible logical outcome of how they view themselves and the world around them.

    No, youīre wrong: The world that jews desire for themselves is completely different that the world that we creators desire for the white race.
    In what ways?

    Itīs not about the same mindset on different peoples, but itīs about totally different ways of thinking, totally different goals, totally different ideals and totally different worlds we are looking for.
    But it isn't, because everything you have previously posted in this thread regarding White people and their relation to the world can be found in the Talmud in relation to the Jews and the world.


    Only in one strategic thing, and itīs not completely the same, but I donīt want to get into details.
    I hope you will, as details might shed light on the difference you maintain exists between yout views and Talmudism. At the moment, such differences are not apparent


    No, I donīt:

    I donīt want slaves, I donīt want to be rich while other races die of hunger and work for me. I donīt want to exploit and destroy nature in order to serve my personal interests, etc, etc, etc.
    The Jews don't necessarily want those things either. They simply do them because they are in a position to do so. A case of "we can, so we will".

    What the Jews really want, at the very bottom line, is a Jewish world which they beleive they are entitled to because they are intrinsically superior.
    This is exactly the same position as you have stated as being your own.

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