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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Patriot
    According to what I've read, Croatians are the lightest Yugoslavian group, next to the Slovenes.
    You mean the Slovenes are the lightest. Without wanting to be biased, I am quite sure about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    I don't know what "kovac" means in your language, but in Slovenian it means "smith". The Hungarians have adopted this word like more than thousand other Slavic expressions (e.g. "mészar" for "butcher", which is derived from the Slavic "mesar" from "meso" = "meat", whereas in Hungarian "meat" is "hus"). "Kovac" is derived from "kovati" = "to forge".

    I know both Hungarians and Slovenes by this surname ("Smith" with its translated variants is the most frequent surname in the world ), but yes, he could be originally from Hungary and most probably a Hungarian Gypsy.
    Yes, Kovač = Smith on Croatian also. Its very often last name amongst different ethnics: Serbs, Croats, Slovenes, Hungarians ect. Its not possible to conclude origins from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    You mean the Slovenes are the lightest. Without wanting to be biased, I am quite sure about this.

    That's exactly what I mean. Croats are lightest next to the Slovenes, i.e. Slovenes are lightest next to no one. Slovenes are without a doubt of predominantly Nordeuropid stock. Croats seem to be a Central/Northern European mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Patriot
    That's exactly what I mean. Croats are lightest next to the Slovenes, i.e. Slovenes are lightest next to no one.
    That's what I understood, too, but I wanted to rule out any possible misunderstanding.

    Slovenes are without a doubt of predominantly Nordeuropid stock.
    Certainly in terms of pigmentation. Morphologically, I think we represent Central Europe as well as almost nobody else.

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    So, again, these are the players from the Croatian representation. They don't look too blonde to me.

    Stipe Pletikosa


    Anthony Seric ( looks quite different here )


    Josip Simunic


    Stjepan Tomas


    Milan Rapaic


    Boris Zivkovic


    Legendary DAVOR SUKER


    Niko Kovac


    Tomislav Butina


    Daniel Saric


    Robert Jarni


    Zvonimir Soldo


    Goran Vlaovic


    Bosko Balaban


    Vasilj Vladimir


    Robert Kovac


    Mario Stanic


    Alen Boksic


    In fact, they look like ordinary people from anywhere in the Balkans ( except Slovenia or Greece ). This goes to say that Croatians aren't much different from Serbs, no matter what Zvaci dreams about.

    If you didn't know these men are Croatians, you could say they are from Romania, or Bulgaria, or even the much-hated Serbia ( no one hates us like Croats, Muslims, USA establishment and Jews like Madeleine Albright Bad company to be in )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    Certainly in terms of pigmentation. Morphologically, I think we represent Central Europe as well as almost nobody else.
    Most Northern Europeans are really not much different from Central Europeans morphologically either (Borreibies and Baltics come to mind). The defining feature of Nordeuropids is their blondism. The very high rate of pure eye blondism is one indication that the racial composition of that country is predominantly Nordeuropid. Can you post some pictures of Slovene players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triglav
    Certainly in terms of pigmentation. Morphologically, I think we represent Central Europe as well as almost nobody else.
    I certainly agree with this, since Slovenes is isolated in Alps and totally surrounded only by central European nations: Austria, Hungaria, Croatia and North Italy. However the identical race is characteristic for our north also (Zagorje region-bordering with Slovenia).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AWAR
    In fact, they look like ordinary people from anywhere in the Balkans ( except Slovenia or Greece ).
    Yes, that is quite right. In the course of time, one develops a keen eye that can tell a Croatian, Serb, etc. from a native in the streets by a quick glance, even if they are of a subtype that is common here as well.

    Edit: What you are referring to are actually speakers of the Serbian/Croatian language (call it what you will) in the Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zvaci
    I certainly agree with this, since Slovenes is isolated in Alps
    That is not quite correct .

    and totally surrounded only by central European nations: Austria, Hungaria, Croatia and North Italy. However the identical race is characteristic for our north also (Zagorje region-bordering with Slovenia).
    Exactly. Northern Croatia, especially Zagorje, is almost identical with Slovenia (apart from the recent migrations within Croatia). That is what I have always maintained. This region, too, has nothing to do with the Alps .

    Primoz Trubar, the first Slovenian writer and a reformationist, referred to the Northern Croatians as Slovenes. Not taking his words as gospel, there is certainly a strong connection (linguistically as well).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zvaci
    Wrong, he is 100% Croatian.
    His mother is Serbian from Sumadija.

    http://www.geocities.com/cdnsuk/thedawson.html

    Here it states that his father is Serbian,a mistake.



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