Classify some Mafiosi

[Med]

Don't think southern Italian senators are representative of the larger population? Well here are some people who definitely wouldn't belong to any 'light upper class'. In fact, before rising to power by illicit means, they occupied the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder. Yet even in dark B&W photos, they appear no different than the 'elite' senators:

Al Capone


Carlo Gambino


Joe Adonis (b. Doto)


Bernardo Provenzano


Joe Masseria


Lucky Luciano


Vito Genovese


Salvatore Maranzano


John Gotti


Paul Castellano


Albert Anastasia


Frank Nitti


Sam Giancana


Salvatore Gravano


Johnny Torrio


Joe Colombo


Vincent Gigante


Frank Costello (b. Castiglia)


Joe Gallo


Gaetano Lucchese

[Pomor]

I would advice most of them not to visit Moscow suburbs after dark

[galvez]

I would advice most of them not to visit Moscow suburbs after dark

I wouldn't advise Russians -- especially Russian women -- to be loitering about alone after dark in any of Russia's major cities.

By the way, I have heard that some Meds who have visited Slavic countries, including Russia, have been mistaken for natives (those intelligent enough not to wear "fagbags" and other articles signalling to pickpockets that one is a tourist).

[Pomor]

I wouldn't advise Russians -- especially Russian women -- to be loitering about alone after dark in any of Russia's major cities.

I don't think so. Actually I am talking about skinheads.

By the way, I have heard that some Meds who have visited Slavic countries, including Russia, have been mistaken for natives (those intelligent enough not to wear "fagbags" and other articles signalling to pickpockets that one is a tourist).

Most probably they were mistaken for Armenians or other peoples from Caucasus. There has been a flood of them recently, I think it is about a million of those in Moscow.

[galvez]

Most probably they were mistaken for Armenians or other peoples from Caucasus. There has been a flood of them recently, I think it is about a million of those in Moscow.

Nope. I have heard of Meds being mistaken for "Russian." Literally being told: "I thought you were Russian before you spoke" or "You look like a Russian; this is not meant as an insult."

But hey, that's just from some people I know. I am not going to run around in circles over this.

Russians, although generally "depigmented," have a wide range in phenotype.

[Glenlivet]

I know more Russians in Sweden who are mistaken for Swedes than Mediterranids who are mistaken for Russians. Although a small sample, that must mean something. Mediterranid does not cross my mind when I think of a Russian. Perhaps some of Bunak's Baltid types does.

On the other hand I have only seen parts of St: Petersburg and ethnic Russians in Estonia. The Russian land is very big, so one could expect great regional variations.

Can you please enlighten me about the wide range of phenotypes that one can find in Russia?

Nope. I have heard of Meds being mistaken for "Russian." Literally being told: "I thought you were Russian before you spoke" or "You look like a Russian; this is not meant as an insult."

But hey, that's just from some people I know. I am not going to run around in circles over this.

Russians, although generally "depigmented," have a wide range in phenotype.

[Glenlivet]

"...one sees on the streets of Moscow Nordics who would be at home in Sweden or in England"

Chapter XII, section 9)

The Living Slavs

(b) Poland and Russia

(Part 2)

The Races of Europe (1939) by Carleton Stevens Coon.

[Triglav]

Can you please enlighten me about the wide range of phenotypes that one can find in Russia?

This would be a big 'un and of interest to many.

[The Blond Beast]

The distinction must always be made between ethnic Russians and the other ethnicities/races who speak Russian.

[Med]

I would advice most of them not to visit Moscow suburbs after dark

You mean because their total lack of Mongoloid traits would immediately mark them as outsiders? Don't worry about it. Any one of those men could have a "Russian skinhead" for dinner.

Hey, is this guy good Nordic skinhead material? Ha ha.