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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissu
    I consider myself more or less sane and I love my language, there is no better language for Finns than Finnish.

    I see you are not a nationalist. Well I am.
    You can be a Finnish nationalist and still prefer the Swedish language, just like you can be an Irish nationalist and still prefer the English language over the dead Irish language. I think it would have been better if Finnish had died out like Irish.

    Here's a little something to tease you:

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    Landet med tusende öar och skär,
    danat ur havsvågors sköte,
    Åland, vårt Åland, vår hembygd det är,
    dig går vår längtan till möte!
    Forngravars kummel i hängbjörkars skygd
    tälja din tusenårssaga.
    Aldrig förgäta vi fädernas bygd,
    vart vi i fjärrled än draga.

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    Skönt är vårt Åland, när fjärdar och sund
    blåna i vårljusa dagar,
    ljuvt är att vandra i skog och i lund,
    i strändernas blommande hagar.
    Midsommarstången mot aftonröd sky
    reses av villiga händer,
    ytterst i utskärens fiskareby
    ungdomen vårdkasar tänder.



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    Skönt är vårt Åland, när vågsvallet yr
    högt mot de mäktiga stupen,
    när under stjärnhimlen kyrkfolket styr
    över de islagda djupen.
    Ryter än stormen, i stugornas ro
    spinnrocken sjunger sin visa;
    minnet av barndomens hägnande bo
    sönerna lyckligast prisa.
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    Aldrig har åländska kvinnor och män
    svikit sin stam och dess ära;
    ofärd oss hotat, men segervisst än
    frihetens arvsrätt vi bära.
    Högt skall det klinga, vårt svenska språk,
    tala med manande stämma,
    lysa vår väg som en flammande båk,
    visa var vi äro hemma.
    Neither assimilation nor integration will solve the problems. The only thing that would work from my point of view would be separation. And this separation should be done on a global level, not on a communal level. The western countries here, the islamic countries there. And a very tall border between the two worlds please.

    -- Valkyrie

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Susisaari
    You can be a Finnish nationalist and still prefer the Swedish language, just like you can be an Irish nationalist and still prefer the English language over the dead Irish language. I think it would have been better if Finnish had died out like Irish.

    Here's a little something to tease you:

    1
    Landet med tusende öar och skär,
    danat ur havsvågors sköte,
    Åland, vårt Åland, vår hembygd det är,
    dig går vår längtan till möte!
    Forngravars kummel i hängbjörkars skygd
    tälja din tusenårssaga.
    Aldrig förgäta vi fädernas bygd,
    vart vi i fjärrled än draga.

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    Skönt är vårt Åland, när fjärdar och sund
    blåna i vårljusa dagar,
    ljuvt är att vandra i skog och i lund,
    i strändernas blommande hagar.
    Midsommarstången mot aftonröd sky
    reses av villiga händer,
    ytterst i utskärens fiskareby
    ungdomen vårdkasar tänder.



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    Skönt är vårt Åland, när vågsvallet yr
    högt mot de mäktiga stupen,
    när under stjärnhimlen kyrkfolket styr
    över de islagda djupen.
    Ryter än stormen, i stugornas ro
    spinnrocken sjunger sin visa;
    minnet av barndomens hägnande bo
    sönerna lyckligast prisa.
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    Aldrig har åländska kvinnor och män
    svikit sin stam och dess ära;
    ofärd oss hotat, men segervisst än
    frihetens arvsrätt vi bära.
    Högt skall det klinga, vårt svenska språk,
    tala med manande stämma,
    lysa vår väg som en flammande båk,
    visa var vi äro hemma.
    I think that sub-types are better than nations.I mean im not nationalis in traditional sense but more like racial nationalist.Sounds weird.

    Example i would like nordid person no matter what is her/his origin,no matter where is she/he originally from.

    So i would form nations by racial standards.

    Of course i like Finland but i just think that swedish language is superior cause its nicer to ears.Finnish language is so dull and some limit,strange and primitive.Not to mention some dialects like karjalan or savon murteet.

    I hate those dialects.They sound so retarded.


    Cheers

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    Sv: Swedens 17th century might!

    I for one don't mind listening to spoken finnish, i think it's a pleasant language, sounds very rural which i like, even though i can only understand a few words.

    And about Sweden's glorious past, we were indeed something to be proud of, too bad most of the Swedish males with a fighting spirit seem to have perished in our many wars centuries ago.

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    Sv: Swedens 17th century might!

    I must agree with Patrik at least it's the best language in the world when you're mad at something. No langauge is better to swear in than finnish.

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicola_Canadian
    Anyway, I wonder why in the entire Skadi forum only pack of crazy Finns keep attacking Russians... But you guys look pathetic... I repeat again - Finns are useless nation of brainless people without any contribution to European culture!
    You better use your head my russian friend why we keep attacking russians.

    If you dont understand i can give the answer

    Simply we dont like them. Cause they are inferior to all and in all aspects and that is proved fact.At once when we got out from Russia in 1917,everything started to go better cause there was no anymore this rottening effect.


    Finland have contributed much more to world if you proport this to population and we have just now started to get some great results in the field of inventions when we have got out of Russia and their frightening influence(soviet-union).

    Btw,why the world biggest country treats its neighbours so badly ?Finland,Estonia,Georgia.Why does all hate Russia and russians? Allthough Russias neighbours have not given any reason to example continuative air space insults.

    And the inventions are coming bigger and greater continually in Finland.Example medicine and gene researches are one of the bests in the whole world in Finland

    We have example molotov cocktail

    Suomi konepistooli what was very advantegeous against russian bolshevism and russian ...........

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    We finns take care our teeths unlike......




    Our technology is way superior than russians.They just try to concentrate to their army just like in the good old SU times but that is started to go bad as well as the other thingies in Russia.

    Russian/soviets(whatever,they are the same) would never had had the A-bomb if their spy wouldn had got the info stealen from the americans or also the info stealen from Germanys kaiser wilhelm institute.



    Our school system is also one of the bests in the world and Russias school system is ....well, not so good.


    Finland is one of the purest and cleanest countriest in the world and in Russia there is...well,not so clean.

    Our living standards are one of the highest and Russias is...well not so high.


    There is also much more high-tech knowing experts in Finland than in Russia.


    Why do you always say finns havent contributed anything to europe.We have been very small and poor nation in the past bullied by the big goljat from the east and our location have been very outlying(not anymore thanks to technology).So there simply havent been the resource to do anything but you see now when we have resources - We are almost always in the top 10 in all good researches and Russia is always between africa and south-america.

    I have always wondered why Russia damages,injures and spoils everything what it touches for exampl the nature(it have been ruined by many points)and their exploiting of industry is one of the 8th stupidest wonders in the world.

    Country what could easily be worlds richest,best militarily and most prosporous world power(thank god that its not) when you look its size and nature material amount and quality is still just nothing..never been and never will.SU was just big joke.


    What have you done so great that you can so openly critize finns for beeing so un-inventive people ? You are now acting just like typical russian.

    Just talking.

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannerheim
    And i agree totally that finnish language should had die in 16th or 17th or at least in 18th.In the 19th,it would had been too late LIKE IT WAS !

    Just cause swedish is prettier.I think any sane finn will admit this.
    I am perfectly sane in my opinion, and so far no doctor has claimed the contrary. I am also all in it when it comes to Fenno-Skandinavian brotherhood - i believe our closest relatives are found in Baltics and in Scandinavia.

    Still i think this opinion was a big load of crap. [...]

    We are basically just like the swedes when it comes to race, but our language and many parts of our culture are not. This is not a bad thing, its a good thing. I for one am damn proud of my ancestors, My Finnish heritage and culture. Nothing will change that.

    I am not pleased at all with you.
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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Topic is "Sweden's 17th century might!" not Finns vs. Russians. Please stay on topic.

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegmund
    Topic is "Sweden's 17th century might!" not Finns vs. Russians. Please stay on topic.
    I am also sick and tired for the flame wars which IMHO have no place here on a Germanic forum.

    It would really be nice. Besides I'm totally aware that Finns and Russians are merely guests here because after all Skadi is a GERMANIC forum. Guests should act as one...

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahti
    I am perfectly sane in my opinion, and so far no doctor has claimed the contrary. I am also all in it when it comes to Fenno-Skandinavian brotherhood - i believe our closest relatives are found in Baltics and in Scandinavia.

    Still i think this opinion was a big load of crap. [...]

    We are basically just like the swedes when it comes to race, but our language and many parts of our culture are not. This is not a bad thing, its a good thing. I for one am damn proud of my ancestors, My Finnish heritage and culture. Nothing will change that.

    I am not pleased at all with you.
    I think rikssvenska sound much richer than finnish.Im not finnish swede nor i have any swedish ancestry(ok,my greatgrandfather was finnishswede.but thats it)

    I love my own people but i just said that the language isnt that great imho.We can have friendly differencies ?

    But so what if the language isnt the best.Most important is that the people are the best.Language is then secondary.

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    Re: Swedens 17th century might!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lissu
    I am also sick and tired for the flame wars which IMHO have no place here on a Germanic forum.

    It would really be nice. Besides I'm totally aware that Finns and Russians are merely guests here because after all Skadi is a GERMANIC forum. Guests should act as one...
    What quests we are if we have our own sub-forum ?

    There is over 10 active finnish posters on skadi and number is increasing.

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