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    Ancient and Early Medieval Germanic Art

    1. Gunnersmark Brooch, silver, 6th cent. CE, Denmark (Celtic-Germanic).




    2. Purse Cover from Sutton Hoo, gold, enamel and garnets, 625-633 CE, England (Hiberno-Saxon).




    3. Golden eagle or raven from Sutton Hoo shield




    4. Gold buckle from Sutton Hoo




    5. Royal sceptre from Sutton Hoo




    6. Sutton hoo shoulder clasp




    7. Sutton Hoo Purse Cover




    8. Sutton Hoo Necklace




    9. Tipperary Cross, 7th-8th cent. CE, Ireland (Hiberno-Saxon).




    10. Ship’s head, wood, c. 800-850 CE, Oseberg, Norway (Viking).




    11. Warriors wearing Boar-Topped Helmets, date unknown (plate from Torslunda, Öland, Sweden)




    12. Rune Stone, c. 987 CE, Denmark (by Harald Bluetooth)(Viking).




    13. Odinic Ritual Stone at Lärbro, Gotland, Sweden - Showing what appears to be an offering to Odin.




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    Re: Ancient and early medieval Germanic art

    I was actually in the British Museum the other day, looking at a few of these masterpieces. Can't beat our forebears for taste, can ye? I might post a few of my pics when they're uploaded.

    Incidentally, speaking of Sutton Hoo, does anyone know where the grave goods from the similar Essex burial that was discovered recently are? I'm dying to see them if it's at all possible. I suppose they're being restored and whatnot still, but would be interested to hear of what their future fate is intended to be.

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    Re: Ancient and early medieval Germanic art

    A lot of knot patterns are definitely Celtic.

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    Re: Ancient and early medieval Germanic art

    Quote Originally Posted by larcher
    A lot of knot patterns are definitely Celtic.
    A lot of so called 'Celtica' has Germanic or other precursors. Don't fall for the 'pop culture' definition of 'Celtic'! Find me a Celtic artefact with such knotwork from an earlier period, and I'll probably be able to find a Scythian one!

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    Re: Ancient and early medieval Germanic art

    A lot of so called 'Celtica' has Germanic or other precursors. Don't fall for the 'pop culture' definition of 'Celtic'! Find me a Celtic artefact with such knotwork from an earlier period, and I'll probably be able to find a Scythian one!
    I think most of the knot-work in Anglo-Saxon art is Celtic-derived. Some scholars think that Viking knotwork is largely celtic derived. And yes, ultimately it all of it is thought to be Scythian-inspired. You'd be hard-pressed to find any knotwork like that of the anglo-saxons among continental Germanic art. I think that only geometric patterns can be said to be truly Germanic, because that is the onlykind of patterning to be found in Germanic Art outside of England (and among early Anglo-Saxon art)in the migration period. But even this came from Scythian artwork originally. But it ain't Celtic.
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    Re: Ancient and early medieval Germanic art

    Quote Originally Posted by thiedischer
    I think most of the knot-work in Anglo-Saxon art is Celtic-derived. Some scholars think that Viking knotwork is largely celtic derived.
    This is Celtic;


    It's not like the English knotwork. It's all swirly, and full of lobes, ellipses and leaf-shapes.
    Our animal-knotwork is far more rigid and ordered. Once a creature's body has gone under another thing, it then must go over! Have you ever plaited anyone's hair? It's like that. The Celtic [and I mean pre-Christian stuff here, as after conversion there was a lot more exchange of motifs - see the Norse sculpture on both sides of the Irish Sea] stuff is far more fluid, with less rules. .

    This sort of thing

    is from a later period.
    And though the chronologies are difficult to prove, it may have English predecessors.
    This is English, for instance;


    and see here;
    Christian Celtic ArtWith the arrival of St. Patrick in the 5th century CE, full-scale conversion to Christianity took place, and monasteries became the principal artistic centers. Christian Celtic art consisted mainly of stone crosses, illuminated manuscripts, and metal objects such as chalices, shrines, and reliquaries. The art of this period utilized traditional Celtic curvilinear motifs enriched with foreign embellishments brought back to Ireland by returning missionaries - motifs such as the Saxon use of entwined, interlocking animal forms in geometric decorations.
    The most impressive Celtic Christian art was produced from the late 7th to the early 8th century, both in Ireland and in Irish missions in Europe.
    from www.missgien.net/ celtic/art.html

    You'd be hard-pressed to find any knotwork like that of the anglo-saxons among continental Germanic art.


    Would you though? Both pictures = pre Viking Sweden


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    Anglo-Saxon jewellery

    Harford Farm Brooch, made in Kent but found at Harford Farm in Norfolk. Dates from the early seventh century, with gold and garnet decorations.

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    Another Anglo-Saxon treasure, the Alfred Jewel (Alfred the Great of Wessex!), made of gold, enamel and rock crystal. Dates from the late 9th century.

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