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    Lightbulb Please classify dolichocephalic skull



    My apologies for the bad pic, I don't have a scanner so I had to make the picture with a photocamera.

    Anyway make of it what you can.

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    Its a male skull.

    Mainly Cromagnid, I`d say.


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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    i agree, cromagnid.

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    Quote Originally Posted by OdinThor
    Its a male skull.

    Mainly Cromagnid, I`d say.

    That's not Cro-Magnon man..

    This is Cro-Magnon:



    As you can see the forehead is much steeper, the zygomatic arches are very wide while the face compared with the bizygomatic breadth is relative short.

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Prince
    That's not Cro-Magnon man..
    They have found more than one, you know ...

    One reason why they have made such a fuss about Crô-Magnon Man, anyway.

    Your skull (in the first post) is orthognathous, with a moderately wide to wide jaw and salient gonials, wide and flaring zygomatics, very slightly projecting glabella ... I suggest Cro-Magnoid in the more general sense, however somewhat gracilized.

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    This skull looks long but it is not low and long like many UP skulls. The jaw angle is intermediate between UP and Nordic/Med. The forehead is not as high as in the Corded type but not strongly receeding as in the Nordic. It does fall backward somewhat but not in line with the nose. The nose is prominent and beaky and neither wide nor narrow. The mastoid processes are very large. From this last feature, I would think he had a long or strong neck or both. It does look like a male. The orbits are neither square nor round but inbetween. I think this could be a UP/Nordic mix, perhaps and Anglo-Saxon or Tronder type.

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    I think this could be a UP/Nordic mix, perhaps and Anglo-Saxon or Tronder type.
    Trønder <> UP/Nordid mix. Trønder types are characteristically high-headed and have much less receding, much higher forheads, as a rule (consider the Corded infusion).

    I think the mandible is so wide and the gonial angles so robust and angular as to tip the skull over to the mostly CM side of things. The gracile impression could be explained as a Nordid or Mediterranid infuence, I guess. In any case I am led to believe that this is a Holocene skull, could even be quite recent.

    ... i m o

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    The skull is named Warfum III, it is from a Iron-Age rowgrave in Groterpia. Groterpia is the name given by DJH Nyessen to the terp-region in the province of Groningen.
    Like Friterpia (nowadays Friesland) it also was inhabitated by the (Proto-)Frisians during the Iron-age.

    Nyessen about Friterpia and Groterpia:
    The number of Nordici among the Friterpians is considerably greater. They are mostly of the "Friterpian type", whereas the Nordic crania among the Groterpians show more of the "Reihengräber type".
    Concerning the skull, I only have the dimensions of the skull and the range they belong to. Sorry enough I don't have the individual meassurements upon this skull, only the relative meassurments (converted to standard skull).
    • Relative length of the Crania: very long, 123
    • Relative height: medium long, 89.9
    • Relative face length: very long, 86.7

    The skull in question is thus on overall: (6, 2, 4)

    • The ideal Nordid "Reihengräber type" had a formula of: (5, 3, 4) or (5, 3, 5)
      This means a long, mediumhigh to high skull with a long face.
    • The "Friterpian type"(Classic Nordid) had a formula of: (6, 3, 3) or (6, 2, 3)
      Meaning a very long, low skull with long or very long face.

    Some of the skull where very low vaulted, these showed signs of deformings.

    Carleton Coon:
    There are two main areas in which terps were built; along the coast of Friesland and along that of Groningen. The two areas are not contiguos, being divided by the inlet known as Lauwers Zee. The former is called Friterpia, the latter Groterpia. The crania from both these regions are typically Nordic in the early Germanic sense; the Friterpians, with a mean cephalic index of 73.7, were slightly longer headed than the Groterpians, whose means is 75.4. Both of these skeletal groups are moderately high-vaulted, with mean basion-bregma heights of 136 mm.; in this dimension as in those of the face, they resemble very closely the crania of the early Anglo-Saxons who invaded England. Some of the Friterpian skulls are very low-vaulted, and show evidence of deformation; this is still practiced on the island of Marken in the Zuyder Zee, where the picturesque head-dress so admired by tourists is said to be the effective agent.32 In both groups most of the individual skulls are of classic Germanic type; some, however, are mesocephalic, and incline morphologically in the direction of the Brünn race, or the Borreby. These latter are commoner in Groterpia than in Friterpia. Part of this Palaeolithic strain may have been brought in by the Germanic ancestors, part absorbed locally.

    During the Middle Ages the cranial form of the inhabitants of Groterpia and Friterpia, who had by now come down off their terps, changed gradually. The West Frisians from Friterpian country grew less dolichocephalic, until their mean cranial indices rose to 77; the Groningen people retained their lead of a single index point, with 78. These changes involved the vault almost entirely, and had little effect on the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    This skull looks long but it is not low and long like many UP skulls. The jaw angle is intermediate between UP and Nordic/Med. The forehead is not as high as in the Corded type but not strongly receeding as in the Nordic. It does fall backward somewhat but not in line with the nose. The nose is prominent and beaky and neither wide nor narrow. The mastoid processes are very large. From this last feature, I would think he had a long or strong neck or both. It does look like a male. The orbits are neither square nor round but inbetween. I think this could be a UP/Nordic mix, perhaps and Anglo-Saxon or Tronder type.
    Herr Doktor.

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    BTW, who changed the title of the thread?

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    Re: Please classify dolichocephalic skull

    Great info, Black Prince!

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