View Poll Results: Should army be seen as a job or a patriotic duty?

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Thread: Serving in the Army: A Job or a Duty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    I know I know. But I am saying the U.S. military is a national, corporate-like entity. IF you serve you are doing it for the money, the benefits, and the education and or credentials it provides to earn more money.

    The modern U.S. military is not a "patriot force", it is a "monetary force". When you people say they don't do it for the money you're all wrong, they do, and for what comes with the money.
    Not true by a long shot, this is coming from someone did serve, even the guys who say they are doing it for college money, still they have a sense of duty about them. With all the federal grants available for college, discounts for the poor, and so on one does not have to join the military to go to college or find a better paying job.

    As a U.S. military personal you get free housing or can become eligible for it, you get extreme on-base discounts on all sorts of food and products, all the major brands and companies are there, and it's all tax-free. The U.S. military housing has private-maid service, it has private yard services, it has private-contracted everything. U.S. military personnel get their education subsidized or get very lenient loans, they get much or all of their meals paid for, and all this is tax free. All this is huge to someone who can't afford college or has no parental and or familial support to fall back on. I am not ribbing any of this, I see it as a good thing ultimately. Most military people are good people. I am just saying it is what it is. The military is its own world, it has Wendy's, it has GAP stores, and they are all tax-free and discounted. The U.S. military is easily the largest form of socialism the world has ever had in existence, with a corporate twist of sorts.
    They should get more, just at any moment they can to be called away, risk there lives, be torn from there families, and much worse all for defending other not willing to risk anything for what they take for granted.

    The military should be its own world it should be self sufficient and be able to take care of its self. One the major things wrong with today's military is that more and more they are relying on private contractors who charge way too much for there services.

    Actually the stores do charge tax just not as much, and of course military personnel should get housed after all the are in the military remember what I said about taking risk and who they are taking these risk for.

    I don't know where you get the idea that the military is socialism, you get nothing for free you earn your keep and you are responsible for your actions, that is not socialism.
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    It´s a patriotic duty, imho. I cant help but thinking of this quote when i saw this thread:

    "Den som undandrager sig att fullgöra värnplikten och endast vill njuta av fosterlandets gåvor utan att gälda dess krav,
    han är ovärdig att nämnas bland fria svenska män. Att svika Konungen och Fäderneslandet har aldrig varit svenskmannased."

    Roughly translated by Google:

    "Those who withdraw themselves to perform military service and only want to enjoy the rewards of his country but to repay its requirements,
    he is unworthy to be named among free Swedish men. To betray the King and Fatherland has never been "a swedish way"."

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    To Wittmann

    Bundeswehr is a piece of shit when it comes to fighting wars...
    Not even a shadow of the Wehrmacht
    French Foreign Legion, your own American Special Forces might be a better bet..
    IE unless you want to go to army just for money

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