View Poll Results: Should army be seen as a job or a patriotic duty?

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Thread: Serving in the Army: A Job or a Duty?

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    Question Serving in the Army: A Job or a Duty?

    Now people see the army like a job and not like a patriotic duty. I've seen a lot of documentaries of American soldiers in Iraq and they all saying the same think: "It's a job". I mean where are the days when one would fight for his country? When people start seeing the army as a job, this will make them cut and run when their lives are in danger (this is happening right now when a lot of American soldiers want to go home). When one will see the army as a duty he will be more willing to fight.. and not cut and run...
    This is my opinion.....
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    Re: Army a Job or a Duty?

    You're right!I don't believe to the modern mercenaries armies!I believe strongly that all people male and females must be training to protect their own Fatherland!In the Modern declain Western World army is a career task in the Traditional World Army Service is the Noble duty ,and right,of the Free People when warrior cast is the true Aristocrats!
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    Re: Army a Job or a Duty?

    If you ask an american soldier why he joined the army, 9 out of 10 answeres would be something like: "I wanted to travel the world" or "They pay my college/apprenticeship" etc.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    It's a patriotic duty for sure, and what a noble duty it is. I can't help but admire those who are willing to defend their country with their own lives. The foundation of a nation's defense however must be a sheer love for folk and country, gold is not a good source for motivation.

    Here in Sweden our rulers are trying to flood our already weak military with racial foreigners and cleanse out as many Swedes as possible which is just a recipe for disaster. They want Sweden to be "defended" by negroes and arabs and just about every other ethnicity except Swedes. But of course this is just another measure of turning Sweden into a multi cultural dream society, making Swedes second class citizens in their own country. We'll soon be looking out over Sweden from behind bars in a zoo if this is allowed to continue.

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    Re: Army a Job or a Duty?

    Personal duty and adherence to commitment until death isn't necessarily related to the defence of the country, especially in our time. It may be for the purpose of continuing the noble legacy of the bloodline and people, but also because a warrior is out to learn from life the fundamental truths and overcome hardships to improve himself mentally, spiritually and physically.

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    Re: Army a Job or a Duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    If you ask an american soldier why he joined the army, 9 out of 10 answeres would be something like: "I wanted to travel the world" or "They pay my college/apprenticeship" etc.
    The U.S. has had an all volunteer military for over 30 years. To get people to enlist the military uses several sales pitches such as "job training" "paying for college" "opportunity to travel". "Its not just a job it's an adventure!" use to be one of their slogans. They also emphasize the benefits of military duty, like full medical & dental, a pension at 50% of base pay after 20 years.
    Part of the problem with the U.S. military is that it has become just another branch of the civil service but with uniforms. I served in the military 25 years ago & some of the problems then were people who were lifers, individuals who were staying in for at least 20 years just to get the pension & lifetime medical/dental coverage. Some of these people were lazy & incredibly incompetent, especially those ranked E-5 & E-6. And there was affirmative action which gave non-Whites extra points in advancement. It's amazing how well the U.S. Military can function with all the lazy morons within it's ranks.

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    Re: Army a Job or a Duty?

    Well I think that it should be a duty. A duty to defend the motherland/fatherland and a duty to invade another country for its resources. For a country to develop it needs resources. One country should do whatever is necessary to get those resources, from trading to military action. In defense of my position I will say that a country that has resources and is not using them, it's like wasting them. But a country that is in full economic, scientific, medical etc.. progress, those resources are vital to the advancement of that country and of the humanity itself. If it wasn't for the colonies to fuel the European industries then the progress would be slower... Think of all that oil from middle-east that is in the hands of some camel-riding punks...

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    But there has to be a greater goal than just a constant economic boom, i'd prefer to see a small but stable economic progress where resources are used carefully and not spent unnecessarily. A country should strive to take care of the basic needs of its citizens, food on the table, roof over their head, law and order in the streets and a job to go to.

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    Re: Sv: Army a Job or a Duty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotpatrik
    A country should strive to take care of the basic needs of its citizens, food on the table, roof over their head, law and order in the streets and a job to go to.
    Well a lot of governments don't do that and that's why we have immigration. Some people instead of trying to FIX the country will decide to take the easy step and that is going to Europe or North America.

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