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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    btw- After we were done we left those countries to govern themselves, so it was not imperialism.
    Sure, but it still fails to dispel my initial claim that Western armies have done next to nothing in defending their own homelands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Sure, but it still fails to dispel my initial claim that Western armies have done next to nothing in defending their own homelands.
    Cause the USSR wasn't using any of those countries for a foot hold in our hemisphere and a potential launch pad for nukes, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothhammer View Post
    Cause the USSR wasn't using any of those countries for a foot hold in our hemisphere and a potential launch pad for nukes, right?
    They already had Cuba, DDR and China for that purpose. Some backwater countries and islands in and around the Caribbean would be irrelevant in this respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Really? Which armies in the Western World has contributed to defending their homelands the last, say, 5 decades? If anything, our armies of today are only contributing to the unfortunate development we've been following the last couple of generations.

    Just because they aint fightin dont mean their not defending their homeland, their ready to fight to defend their homeland which to me is defending their homeland -by disencouragin anyone from startin.

    And besides Teri Taliban is on the rocks which makes it much, much harder for them to do terrorist actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Sure, but it still fails to dispel my initial claim that Western armies have done next to nothing in defending their own homelands.
    They already had Cuba, DDR and China for that purpose. Some backwater countries and islands in and around the Caribbean would be irrelevant in this respect.
    Well I guess you should maybe ask someone who was there and not listen to the leftist media thought conditioning. Like I said before the leftist don't talk much about what went on in Central America, they don't want people to hear about their defeat and they don't want people to know actually how brutal they are when it comes to human and national rights.

    The USSR was funding all the communist activity in and around Central America in the 1980's and before. Most of the weapons came from the USSR via Cuba. Their idea was to create more communist countries closer to the US. If you look at a map most of those countries are on the Western side of Central America, it would have given the USSR almost a surrounding effect for North America. They wanted to establish military bases closer to the American homeland. Besides that China and the USSR did not always get along when it concerned America and the Western Hemisphere. China was very much afraid of what could and should have happened to them- grain embargo. The US president at that time ( Reagan ) very much liked to use food as weapon.

    Again maybe you should ask someone who was there fighting if they were doing " next to nothing " oh but of course you think they are weak from what I gather from your earlier statements. The only weak ones are the ones not willing to fight and to sit back and play armchair philosopher.
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    The "official" political motives for war are irrelevant, for three millennia human nature has not changed; the only thing that galvanizes men towards greater feats of ingenuity and progression is the desire for self preservation, which is assured by expanding or defending borders.

    All instruments within society improve as a result of war, the only reason this discussion is being made is analytical vs normative statements. From a normative perspective war causes death and destruction, therefore it is ugly, from an analytical perspective most modern technology derives from some form of weapons research, therefore it is attractive.

    Like Heraclitus said, War is the Father of all things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Well I guess you should maybe ask someone who was there and not listen to the leftist media thought conditioning.
    Don't worry, I can think for myself, thank you very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Again maybe you should ask someone who was there fighting if they were doing " next to nothing " oh but of course you think they are weak from what I gather from your earlier statements.
    I didn't mean their actions in itself was 'next to nothing'. Putting one's life on the line is certainly a very high sacrifice. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it benefits the security of their homeland and its people.
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    Right now I'm waiting on a waiver that when signed will prove to the national guard that I don't have a mental illness that I know that I don't have.

    Anyways it is both a job and duty, you do it to serve your nation. I have been freelance publishing a horror and adventure novel and going to college but I cannot wait to be pushed to my limits in bootcamp this fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    Don't worry, I can think for myself, thank you very much.
    Given by what you posted before it sure does not sound like it. So far you have yet to prove nothing but that you buy into the whole idea from leftist that soldiers are not people and incapable of thinking on their own. Most of what you have posted is just a regurgitation of what the left has conditioned you to think, almost like a sense of elitism with more words than action.

    I didn't mean their actions in itself was 'next to nothing'. Putting one's life on the line is certainly a very high sacrifice. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it benefits the security of their homeland and its people.
    Umm, lets see a foreign communist power wants to set up military and naval bases in your back yard, I guess that in some twisted way you figure that stopping them is not protecting your country. I guess liberating citizens of your country from a hostile power is not either. Very strange logic indeed, that you carry.

    This discussion reminds me something.... This forum is based on free speech of Germanic people. I wonder if it the hosting country of this forum would have free speech if there were never soldiers to protect that free speech. So given that free speech and thought have to be protected I guess all those men who gave everything they had or would ever have also protected your ability to speak and think freely. The sad thing is that these men risked their lives and put their lives on the line so you to could have freedom of thought and speach, yet they are called the weak ones by those who will not risk anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Given by what you posted before it sure does not sound like it. So far you have yet to prove nothing but that you buy into the whole idea from leftist that soldiers are not people and incapable of thinking on their own. Most of what you have posted is just a regurgitation of what the left has conditioned you to think, almost like a sense of elitism with more words than action.
    Defamation by association...Clever. Typical redneck logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    Umm, lets see a foreign communist power wants to set up military and naval bases in your back yard, I guess that in some twisted way you figure that stopping them is not protecting your country.
    Well, they already had Cuba for that, so what did the US military really achieve? All in all, I think the aggressive military actions of your country has inspired more threats and enemies towards its people than it has secured the people's safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    I guess liberating citizens of your country from a hostile power is not either. Very strange logic indeed, that you carry.
    What are you on about?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpearBrave View Post
    This discussion reminds me something.... This forum is based on free speech of Germanic people. I wonder if it the hosting country of this forum would have free speech if there were never soldiers to protect that free speech. So given that free speech and thought have to be protected I guess all those men who gave everything they had or would ever have also protected your ability to speak and think freely. The sad thing is that these men risked their lives and put their lives on the line so you to could have freedom of thought and speach, yet they are called the weak ones by those who will not risk anything.
    Free speech has never been a cause of the military, but that of the citizenry.
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