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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I have nothing but disdain for people killing merely for the money, or by some absurd conviction that mindlessly following their overlord's orders in itself is somehow a virtue. I don't understand how that makes anyone more of a 'man'. If anything, it makes you a weakling.
    Being in the military does not make one weak or a weakling, as I said earlier soldiers are not mindless robots they are human with there own thoughts. It is very easy for someone who has not served to say it makes you a weakling when they have not been though things like that. How do you know who the weakling is if you did not serve. I don't know where such ideas come from other than movies or leftist propaganda that has been conditioning people for decades.

    Who ever said being in the military is killing for money, if that were true the pay would be much greater. Sure there are soldiers of fortune but they are not regular military. Besides that they are few compared to regular military forces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I have nothing but disdain for people killing merely for the money, or by some absurd conviction that mindlessly following their overlord's orders in itself is somehow a virtue. I don't understand how that makes anyone more of a 'man'. If anything, it makes you a weakling.
    Obey the just lord, but kill the unjust lord.
    Tore Hund knew this principle..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    Not really. I do however see the pregnant 17-19 year old's who have to go to their parents and explain how they married an army guy who left on a tour only to find out that upon returning he slept with another 19 year old who he met at the bar and now wants a divorce.

    These young women's lives are decimated by these idiots. The child is raised in poverty and is usually into every vice one can imagine because it has no father and it's mother was just a child and still is.

    I agree some military guys do do it right. The problem is they are not the majority. They are the vast minority. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/12...e-to-increase/
    Oh you mean the same guys you said go to the bar and talk all night about how bad their officers are? I like how you used their opinion on that as if they're a credible source, then point all the flaws of your source? Good job.

    Those "soldiers" that weaseled their way into the military are the bain of the Army. Those types of guys are the types that wreek hell on their chain of command with serious incident reports and such.

    As previously stated, it's more than easy enough for them to secure child support payments if their pour choice of baby's daddy is a piece of crud. Army leadership put that reg in place btw

    Don't act like the only victims are your town. Half the women or more that end up with soldiers do so to manipulate them for benefits, and wait til they've saved up enough of beefy deployment pay to run the bank account dry and leave them before they get home. They takes all their things with them, to include the kids. Local businesses will pump out "deals" for payments on things from cars to jewelry to scam soldiers with things like the L way clause. Army posts don't exist without a close town thriving off the manipulation of soldiers.

    I see you ranting on and on through out this thread, leaving comments based on limited knowledge and personal experiences drinking at bars with the scum of the service. I know why I continue this. I'm a proud soldier trying to make this Army better, and shut up an overgrown child that wants to trash talk a great institution's flaws without spending any time in service trying to fix said flaws. I think you're trying to act like you're above it so you can avoid facing the fact you're letting our military slip into the hands of our nations trash. History shows whoever controls the military controls the nation. Thanks for helping our nation slip into the gutter by standing idoly by. I can't help seeing you more negatively than others on this board cause I don't know the situations of the other nation's military represented on this board. Their military's world is foreign to me. What I do know as an American soldier is enough that I can testify to what I'm talking about when debating with an American child about the merits of service, flaws of the system, and actions to be taken to fix said flaws, along with the will power to fix them. That's why I reenlisted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Skannon View Post
    Obey the just lord, but kill the unjust lord.
    Tore Hund knew this principle..
    I only obey ętt and tjod.
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    I have no problem with the military or ex-military contractors retiring people of non-European descent. We need more of that. I personally am of the opinion that soldiers weapons need to do more area of effect damage, there's just not enough enemy populaces dying because the weapons are too precise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Žoreišar View Post
    I only obey ętt and tjod.
    Sure, but both require leadership. If the leader acts in the best interest of the people, obey him, if not, kill him..

    No effective defense against injustice and opression was ever mustered without solid leadership and people prepared to follow! The masses arent even able to take care of their own interests without leadership. If they were we wouldn't be in the predicament we are today.

    Without leadership the world would still be flat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Skannon View Post
    Sure, but both require leadership. If the leader acts in the best interest of the people, obey him, if not, kill him..
    Leadership, of course. Lordship, never.

    Perhaps I'm only nitpicking here, but I think there's a vital difference between the two.
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    Serving in a Militia is a Duty.

    Serving in the "Army" is a Joke!


    And these days a fools bet.

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    The U.S. Army is what we make of it.


    An untrained militia is useless.

    A militia with members who have Infantry training(combat experience a plus) might work, with the right people.

    Paint ball teams are not militia.

    I have yet to meet a militia member who I would want to clear a house with.

    I would like to serve in a well regulated militia.
    "Do not confuse "duty" with what other people expect of you; they are utterly different. Duty is a debt you owe to yourself to fulfill obligations you have assumed voluntarily. Paying that debt can entail anything from years of patient work to instant willingness to die. Difficult it may be, but the reward is self-respect."

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    Quote Originally Posted by EQ Fighter View Post
    Serving in a Militia is a Duty.

    Serving in the "Army" is a Joke!


    And these days a fools bet.
    So I guess we should rely on untrained people to defend our folk if necessary?

    Really does that make sense to let racial others get trained in the use of weapons and tactics to be further used against us in the future, even if it is threat of use.

    The fools bet is to even think that members of our own folk should not be trained. I know more than a few Militia members, while some are good folks most are not. They are poorly trained if at all.
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