Results 1 to 4 of 4

Thread: "And Time Rolls On: The Savitri Devi Interviews" (Edited by R.G. Fowler)

  1. #1
    Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Blood_Axis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, July 8th, 2021 @ 07:56 AM
    Ethnicity
    Hellenic
    Ancestry
    75% Hellenic. 25% Anglosaxon
    Subrace
    Noric
    Country
    Other Other
    Gender
    Age
    43
    Family
    In a steady relationship
    Religion
    Still searching
    Posts
    5,150
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    31
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    81
    Thanked in
    43 Posts

    Exclamation "And Time Rolls On: The Savitri Devi Interviews" (Edited by R.G. Fowler)

    The publication of "And Time Rolls On: The Savitri Devi Interviews", edited by R.G. Fowler, in a limited edition of 200 clothbound copies, has been announced. To those interested, hurry up as there are only 17 (!) copies remaining (I ordered one yesterday)

    Please review these sample excerpts from the book:

    Christianity & Intolerance


    Her views on Heathenism are astonishing. She explains how Christianity imposed itself by fire and sword in the European world, destroying indigenous European tradition, in order to promote the expantionist interests of Emperor Constantine in Southern Europe and Charlemagne in Northern Europe.

    She explains why in her views the Christian religion of equality is more incompatible with the Nordic than the Mediterranean ideals, and how the Nordic folk fought harder against Christianization.
    According to her, some of the mediterraneans found ways of "disguising" their native religions by establishing matriarchical "christian" dogmas.

    On the other hand, she expresses her deepest admiration for emperor Julian, who tried to revive the indigenous Pagan religions unsuccessfully.

    Hinduism & National Socialism

    In this chapter she expresses her views on Hinduism -which she considers to be the core of native Indoeuropean Heathenism, how she thinks it is compatible to National Socialism and how she admires the ancient Hindu Caste system and believes it to be the most noble of all Aryan traditions. Very interesting.

    Of less interest to this board but nevertheles astonishing is the chapter she wrote about Sex, Marriage and Family Life.

    In it, she explains how the deterioration of the family values is the most noticeable warning of the beginning of the Dark Age (Kali Yuga), how Race and family are the most important human values, and how she decided not to have children herself, in respect for the Caste System. She considered herself to be of lesser genetic quality to her husband, who was a Brahman.
    They talked about adopting "pure-blooded aryan children" and raising them as their own, but they never got the chance.

    All in all, I think it is a rather interesting read - especially the chapters on christianity and hinduism

  2. #2
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    Sunday, July 23rd, 2006 @ 02:08 PM
    Age
    65
    Posts
    796
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8
    Thanked in
    8 Posts
    It must be borne in mind that Nordic ideals and national socialism are not synonymous. National socialism is not the way in which our ancestors ever lived. The tribe is not a socialist entity, it is a folk entity and in it are often roles defined so harshly as to be incompatible with any modern community. All nation states with a welfare system are national socialist states, actually, but it is now well known that the social or welfare systems are what has caused many people to become demotivated and lazy and for the state itself to form elites and become fascistic over the masses, whether these masses be ethnic or mixed.

    I think we need something entirely different from these mass-oriented, and even perhaps nation oriented systems as they have become impossible to sustain in our world of today. The populations are just too diverse and too large and unwieldy and interdependent to sustain anything that went before.

    It may be a good idea to start thinking about communities within states as this seems to be the only way in which any of us are going to get anything done in a rapidly degrading western context. The new rapidly rising eastern context is about to overwhelm the economies of the world. Anyone even entertaining ideas of anything from the past is wasting valuable time and chasing after the moon. It will never happen. We need what someone needs when an artery has been cut. A quick fix. Anything else will come after that. We need to find a way of living through what is going to happen to us. At the moment no one has any idea of a workable system. At the moment everyone is just living one or other sort of dream, hoping and wishing but not able to achieve anything. This might be because the whole problem needs to be rethought and re-examined.

  3. #3
    Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Blood_Axis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, July 8th, 2021 @ 07:56 AM
    Ethnicity
    Hellenic
    Ancestry
    75% Hellenic. 25% Anglosaxon
    Subrace
    Noric
    Country
    Other Other
    Gender
    Age
    43
    Family
    In a steady relationship
    Religion
    Still searching
    Posts
    5,150
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    31
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    81
    Thanked in
    43 Posts
    Well, my purpose of this thread was to focus mainly on the religious aspects that she proposes.

    Still, I find your comments to be rather productive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrid
    It must be borne in mind that Nordic ideals and national socialism are not synonymous. National socialism is not the way in which our ancestors ever lived. The tribe is not a socialist entity, it is a folk entity and in it are often roles defined so harshly as to be incompatible with any modern community. All nation states with a welfare system are national socialist states, actually, but it is now well known that the social or welfare systems are what has caused many people to become demotivated and lazy and for the state itself to form elites and become fascistic over the masses, whether these masses be ethnic or mixed.
    I agree with what you say. Though it is not a secret that I have been largely affiliated with the NS doctrine, I have come to the point of questioning it validity (in it’s Third Reich form) in the here and now.
    And though I admit to admire Hitler for quite a lot of my own reasons, I am not a fetishist.

    I also admire her dedication to Hitler and NS, but that was an all together different time. I don’t think the exact same principles can be applied today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrid
    I think we need something entirely different from these mass-oriented, and even perhaps nation oriented systems as they have become impossible to sustain in our world of today. The populations are just too diverse and too large and unwieldy and interdependent to sustain anything that went before.
    I wholly agree and I have been progressively fonder of the ideas of the National Anarchists or the Third Position movements in general.
    I too am not in favor in Statism –at least not in its present form.
    My ideal utopia would be the formation of small, self-sustained, folkish communities that would live in harmony with each other.

    Race is a factor that is too general today. I totally identify with your concern about tribes and their separate folkish identity.

    That would be an ideal state of being for mankind. I am concerned, however, as to how this would materialize in this world of interest and decay, unless the whole system is blown to pieces and the whole world is rebuilt from scratch

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigrid
    Anyone even entertaining ideas of anything from the past is wasting valuable time and chasing after the moon. It will never happen. We need what someone needs when an artery has been cut. A quick fix. Anything else will come after that. We need to find a way of living through what is going to happen to us. At the moment no one has any idea of a workable system. At the moment everyone is just living one or other sort of dream, hoping and wishing but not able to achieve anything. This might be because the whole problem needs to be rethought and re-examined.
    I am not delusional that any kind of fetishism and obsession with the relics of the past, be it Hitlerism, Stalinism, Marxism, or whatever-ism, is going to take us forward.

    Instead, extreme adherence to such values without critical thinking is unproductive and disastrous.
    I know you know what I mean. I have experienced it once too many in every nationalist group I have joined, whereby people exhaust their precious time and energy and end up losing the essence by caring only about appearance and sticking to obsolete ideas and methodology without enquiring if their politics is valid for the present and future.
    We certainly need something fresher if we ever want to make a difference

  4. #4
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Last Online
    Sunday, July 23rd, 2006 @ 02:08 PM
    Age
    65
    Posts
    796
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    8
    Thanked in
    8 Posts
    B_A, BuB isn't sending me notifications since the upgrade so I didn't see your answer. Sorry in advance if I seem to have snubbed anything, but if it disappears off the recent posts list and it doesn't turn up in the e-mail then I will miss it.

    I share your concerns about what to do and whether to go back or forward or do something new, or maybe a bit of all three in terms of political issues. Because of this and because many cultural or faith based fora ask people specifically not to bring politics into the picture I set up, on request, a forum to discuss politics. This is so that this can dovetail with cultural and folkish fora in a poster's life and people can speak politics somewhere without upsetting the nature of certain boards. See my signature for the URL.

    Because there are quite a few specifically national socialist fora and no nationalist or right libertarian or new right fora that I know of I have made this one nationalist or European ethno-centric so that this aspect can be discussed by those who aren't especially NS. I had this forum once before so I kept the name of Fire and Ice. It was to be symbolic of the crucible of Ginnungagap where fire and ice meet to create the world. I was hoping that they could meet to create politics as well. eyes:

    If you would like to join and make any political suggestions or debate the way you feel about what you have been and done and how you'd like to go forward or whatever, please join. It's not there to compete or act in opposition, it's just there to take up the political content that tends to bug fora that don't want to bring politics into the arena. And a lot of people want to say certain political things. Fire and Ice is hopefully somewhere where they can do this.

Similar Threads

  1. New Poster Interested in Savitri Devi
    By ossianicgermanic in forum Introductions & Greetings
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: Tuesday, December 11th, 2018, 08:54 PM
  2. Classify Savitri Devi
    By Catterick in forum Anthropological Taxonomy
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: Friday, August 12th, 2016, 03:11 PM
  3. The Religion of the Strong (by Savitri Devi Mukherji)
    By Veritas Æquitas in forum Indo-Germanic Spirituality
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: Tuesday, February 5th, 2008, 07:30 PM
  4. Classify Savitri Devi
    By Ealhswið in forum Anthropological Taxonomy
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: Thursday, January 4th, 2007, 11:27 PM
  5. Savitri Devi: "And Time Rolls On" - Life in the Kali Yuga
    By ogenoct in forum Indo-Germanic Spirituality
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Sunday, June 19th, 2005, 11:25 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •