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Thread: Should The English Language Return To Its Anglo-Saxon Roots?

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    Should The English Language Return To Its Anglo-Saxon Roots?

    Should English return to it's Anglo-Saxon roots? Should we resurrect Old English words in a modernized form? Should we create neologisms and compound words from English roots to replace words borrowed from French, Latin, Greek and other foreign languages?

    http://www.geocities.com/bajparry/Anglish.html
    http://engelsax.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome
    http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Headside
    http://www.geocities.com/wordwulf/niw_englisc.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ander-Saxon

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    AW: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    At least to a certain extent it probably wouldn't hurt to "Anglify" English. In Germany, in the 17th and 18th century "language purists" like Philipp von Zesen and Joachim Heinrich Campe were not unsuccessful in creating and popularizing German words for a series of words of Latin and different origin, and their creations became absolutely normal words in the German language.
    Last edited by Nordgau; Sunday, April 16th, 2006 at 05:27 PM.
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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    I wholeheartedly agree that the English language should adopt Anglo-Saxon words; it is our heritage and we must preserve it.

    Indeed, many English words have become somewhat 'Latinized' but I do not think that they can be replaced since they have become firmly imbedded into English culture (though I am in favour of promoting "language purist" ideals, as Nordgau puts it).

    As of late, England has been undergoing a linguistical onslaught from the black communities which inhabit many inner-city areas around the nation; they call called Jafrican and it continues to thrive within the urban communities. Sadly enough, the youth of today are generally accepting this new pattern of speech - particularly the working-class.

    According to the Daily Mail, "this multicultural patois of 'West African, Indian and Jamaican' speech patterns is “wiping out English accents in inner-cities.”

    Here’s a guide to “Jafrican,” courtesy of the Daily Mail:

    Yoot – child/children
    Blud/bredren/bruv – mate
    Ends – area, estate or neighbourhood (as in “what ends you from?”)
    Low batties – trousers that hang low on the waist
    Bitch – girlfriend
    Begging – talking rubbish
    Nang – good (as in “rah, das ‘nuff nang!”) meaning: “Wow, that’s really good!”
    Chat – talk back, contradict (as in “don’t chat to me!”)

    Source: http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Artic...d+of+Yoot.html
    This defamation of the English language must not be tolerated

    In short, I voted yes to returning English to its Anglo-Saxon roots

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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Quote Originally Posted by thiedischer
    Should English return to it's Anglo-Saxon roots? Should we resurrect Old English words in a modernized form? Should we create neologisms and compound words from English roots to replace words borrowed from French, Latin, Greek and other foreign languages?

    http://www.geocities.com/bajparry/Anglish.html
    http://engelsax.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome
    http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Headside
    http://www.geocities.com/wordwulf/niw_englisc.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ander-Saxon
    I vote no. English has become the universal language of the White race, as Latin was long ago. It is therefore fitting that its modern version is a fusion of Germanic grammar and some Germanic vocabluary, with a largely Latin-Med vocabulary, as modern White civilization is a fusion of Med and Nord influences.
    Language evolves over time and is not staic. Static languages become dead languages

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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd Volsung
    I wholeheartedly agree that the English language should adopt Anglo-Saxon words; it is our heritage and we must preserve it.

    Indeed, many English words have become somewhat 'Latinized' but I do not think that they can be replaced since they have become firmly imbedded into English culture (though I am in favour of promoting "language purist" ideals, as Nordgau puts it).

    As of late, England has been undergoing a linguistical onslaught from the black communities which inhabit many inner-city areas around the nation; they call called Jafrican and it continues to thrive within the urban communities. Sadly enough, the youth of today are generally accepting this new pattern of speech - particularly the working-class.

    According to the Daily Mail, "this multicultural patois of 'West African, Indian and Jamaican' speech patterns is “wiping out English accents in inner-cities.”

    Here’s a guide to “Jafrican,” courtesy of the Daily Mail:



    This defamation of the English language must not be tolerated

    In short, I voted yes to returning English to its Anglo-Saxon roots

    Zitat:
    Yoot – child/children
    Blud/bredren/bruv – mate
    Ends – area, estate or neighbourhood (as in “what ends you from?”)
    Low batties – trousers that hang low on the waist
    Bitch – girlfriend
    Begging – talking rubbish
    Nang – good (as in “rah, das ‘nuff nang!”) meaning: “Wow, that’s really good!”
    Chat – talk back, contradict (as in “don’t chat to me!”)

    Source: http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Artic...d+of+Yoot.html


    Exactly my point, this unspeakable filth is the true threat to English, not the immortal heritage of Greece and Rome

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    AW: Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Quote Originally Posted by diabloblanco92
    I vote no. English has become the universal language of the White race, as Latin was long ago. It is therefore fitting that its modern version is a fusion of Germanic grammar and some Germanic vocabluary, with a largely Latin-Med vocabulary, as modern White civilization is a fusion of Med and Nord influences.
    Apart from Pan-Aryan ideas of "Whiteness": Prior and decisive for the nature of English should be in the first line the concerns and interests of the folk of the native speakers, and not "symbolic" or "economic" aspects which come up through English being the lingua franca for a greater community of people. It is anyway not only universal language for whites-- one define them as one wants--but for the whole world, so that Negroes and Chinese could queue up with the same right and add their "contributions" to the English language ...

    Culturally-lingually aware Anglo-Saxons surely and rightfully can do reflections about rejecting this or that (historical) influence on their language and suggesting changes and alternatives. And they needn't act on the premise of an alleged Esperanto mission of their tongue for others.

    Language evolves over time and is not staic. Static languages become dead languages
    The evolution argument is what the people here use when who say that one shouldn't care about the massive infiltration of German with Anglicisms. More neutral one could also speak of "changes" happening in a language, and they can be positive or negative. Languages don't evolve or change by themselves, but it depends on how the speakers treat their language. A language community and its intellectual-lingual leaders may let brutalisation and bastardisation of the language through foreign expressions happen, or they may care for and cultivate their language.

    I certainly do not cheer for the "dynamic" kind of "creative" treatment of the language of Goethe and Nietzsche that "Aryan" immigrants from Anatolia show in the semi-ghettos of Berlin. Besides, Thiedischer's suggestion of a "conservative revolution" within English is certainly quite a plea for a fundamental change of the language, while you want to keep English as it is. So the "progressiveness" point against solidification goes to him.
    Last edited by Nordgau; Sunday, April 16th, 2006 at 11:42 PM.
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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Yes I would like our language to be more Anglo-Saxon - I can't abide the way some kids today talk in this 'wigga' fashion!

    And also work to save our dialects me babber!

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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Even though I am of mixed Anglo-Saxon and Norman extraction, I think English would sound much more pleasing if it were not polluted by French influence. Without the French, English would sound much more like Dutch and it would be easier to learn Dutch and German. Not to mention our connection to those mainland Germanic territories would be greater, we might have saved our Europe from the ravagings of two world wars.

    Also, more Germanic sound would make the Angles more kin to the lowland Scots, who speak a dialect very similar to Frisian.

    For example, Bibliographies should be called Bookhoards. I champion the teaching of many languages in American schools from very early on anyhow (this is now a lost cause, I believe) imagine if we could speak 3-4 languages like many Europeans. Stupid that we don't really.
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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator X
    For example, Bibliographies should be called Bookhoards.
    Not bad, but I myself prefer "booktokening", its a more precise translation.

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    Re: Returning English to its Anglo-Saxon Roots

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator X
    Also, more Germanic sound would make the Angles more kin to the lowland Scots, who speak a dialect very similar to Frisian.
    This [very flattering perhaps!] exaggeration of the Germanic aspect of Scots has been spread all over the net, and really needs countering. The Lallans dialects are possibly no more entitled to claim this than many regional dialects within England itself. And how many people speak it, anyway? Very few I should think. If examples need trotting out, you get pretty contrived unnatural sentences of pure Germanic, but I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a Scot who could keep that up for more than a few minutes. I wouldn't have a hope in hell of holding a decent conversation with a Frieslander, but this would be relatively easy with any Scot. Don't get me wrong, I wish it were true, but I feel there's a need to take such statements with a fair old pinch of salt.

    Considering my own Scotch acquaintances, I'm minded of a builder I know from Ayr... Come to think of it, his speech is the most Germanic I've ever heard, but this is solely down to the fact that every other word in his sentences is an expletive! And usually the very worst one!

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