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    Question Looking for Information on NS Occult Asatru, Thule, Vril, etc.

    Please i dont want people coming on leaving remarks, if they dont believe or so on.. Please dont piss me off

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    Post N.S.?Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril

    I am stll looking for feedback here also. Is anybody familiar with the mother-gods discussed by Norbert Juergen-Ratthofer? This guy predicted Germanic people as coming north into Europe from Iraq long before Out-Of-Africa theory. I thought he was crazy at the time. He also says these early Europeans worshipped a mother-god, like the Cro-Magnon ivory figures, which later evolved into some of the Egyptian and Classical female gods and also some Germanic female gods.

    Also, the N/S concept of the Black Sun, as seen in the Wevelsberg mosiac, which Lichtreich has, along with a couple Flugscheiben, as his logo. We now know this Black Sun to be at the center of every gallexy, only we call it a black hole now. Due to its implosive vs. explosive interaction, the Black Sun emits every type of radiation, including aether radiation, that we know of. It also employs all of the physical laws at the same time, making it the most powerful singularity in the universe. Question: Did the National Socialists, specifically the SS, worship the Black Sun?

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    ..."this Black Sun to be at the center of every gallexy, only we call it a black hole now. Due to its implosive vs. explosive interaction, the Black Sun emits every type of radiation, including aether radiation, that we know of."

    Actually, a black hole dosn't emit any kind of radiation at all. Even light waves are absorbed, hence the term 'black hole.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    I am stll looking for feedback here also. Is anybody familiar with the mother-gods discussed by Norbert Juergen-Ratthofer? This guy predicted Germanic people as coming north into Europe from Iraq long before Out-Of-Africa theory. I thought he was crazy at the time. He also says these early Europeans worshipped a mother-god, like the Cro-Magnon ivory figures, which later evolved into some of the Egyptian and Classical female gods and also some Germanic female gods.

    Also, the N/S concept of the Black Sun, as seen in the Wevelsberg mosiac, which Lichtreich has, along with a couple Flugscheiben, as his logo. We now know this Black Sun to be at the center of every gallexy, only we call it a black hole now. Due to its implosive vs. explosive interaction, the Black Sun emits every type of radiation, including aether radiation, that we know of. It also employs all of the physical laws at the same time, making it the most powerful singularity in the universe. Question: Did the National Socialists, specifically the SS, worship the Black Sun?
    I saw a TV special on this a few months ago. There are new discoveries about Black Holes - one is, as you say, that they are in the center of every gallery. They seem to be a sort of creative/destructive force. They form the universe by devouring it. Very elegant and paradoxical idea.

    I saw on the show they had a sort of column of radiation of some sort coming out of them. Could this be like the World Axis described in primitive religion? Makes one wonder.

    As for the NS and Black Sun? I have no idea. Do you have more info on this?

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoob
    I saw on the show they had a sort of column of radiation of some sort coming out of them. Could this be like the World Axis described in primitive religion?
    I think that you are confusing two different ideas...There cannot be any radiation emitted from a black hole, due to its gravitational pull.

    However, vedic cosmology has some ideas that might be related to the concept of a 'black sun'.

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    Quote Originally Posted by rattenhuber
    I think that you are confusing two different ideas...There cannot be any radiation emitted from a black hole, due to its gravitational pull.

    However, vedic cosmology has some ideas that might be related to the concept of a 'black sun'.
    Check out the latest findings regarding Black Holes.

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...cs_021111.html
    "Among the most powerful phenomena in space are the jets of material spat out by supermassive black holes, which anchor many galaxies. These hypervelocity streams of superheated gas, called plasma, are concentrated into two narrow paths that travel in opposite directions, along a galaxy. s axis of rotation. Among the most powerful phenomena in space are the jets of material spat out by supermassive black holes, which anchor many galaxies. These hypervelocity streams of superheated gas, called plasma, are concentrated into two narrow paths that travel in opposite directions, along a galaxy. s axis of rotation. But the forces and processes that funnel and propel these magnificent structures, which can span light-years of space, are mostly mysterious."

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...le_030403.html
    "Astronomers have peered through gas, dust and general chaos to get an unprecedented look at the vicinity of a hefty black hole at the heart of one of the earliest galaxies in the universe.

    And they've seen just what they expected: lots of baby stars and more on the way.

    The finding provides important direct evidence for an emerging theory of galaxy formation, termed co-evolution , which holds that black holes and galaxies evolved together and that neither could have alone managed to mastermind the rapid star birth known to take place in the early universe."

    There's lots of new research on this - including an idea that the universe was spawned by a "White Hole".
    Last edited by Scoob; Monday, January 5th, 2004 at 03:51 AM.

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    For the most part, No, the NS did not worship the Black Sun. There was a faction in the SS that did, but they didn't represent offical policy or even possibly make up a majority. Himmler himself made a remark to Hitler that most men in the SS were devout Catholics. Himmler also forbade the harrasement of SS members on the basis of religion, on penalty of immediate expulsion from the SS.

    Although somewhat anti-Christian, Himmler forbade his officers from making certain critical remarks about Christianity, particularly about the man Jesus himself. First among them was that Jesus was a Jew.


    "In ideological training I forbid every attack against Christ as a person, since such attacks or insults that Christ was a Jew are unworthy of us and certainly untrue historically."
    -Heinrich Himmler, June 28 1937


    Although there is an offhand remark recorded by Himmler's secretary, in which the Reichsfuhrer said something like "I have nothing against Christianity in of itself".

    Other than in certain factions of the SS, theres no evidence of other NS leaders worshiping the Black Sun or even practicing paganism. Many of the top NS leaders were self-professed "Positive Christians", which meant they were Christians but refused to engage in inter-denominational rivalries but instead called for the unity of all German Christians.

    In December 1935, Goebbels made a speech that mocked the notion that NS had anything to do with paganism, the occult, etc. Goering also made remarks critical of this notion of NS, claiming "Naturally there are always people at work who represent a type of provacatuer, who have come to us because they imagine National Socialism to be something other than it is, who have all kinds of fantastic and confused plans......"

    Then there are the remarks of Bernhard Rust, minister of Education and Culture;
    "We have not fought to build a paganistic temple, but to unite the German Volk for all eternity. We do not build temples against the Christian church, we do not want Valhalla as a substitute for a Christian heaven."
    --July 1, 1934


    In his first speech as Chancellor on Feb.1 1933, Hitler declared that the new NS regime would regard Christianity as the basis of the German collective morality.

    I hope this information was helpful.

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    Rattenhuber, the Black Sun absorbs all energy near its center. At some distance from the black hole or Black Sun, energy collides with matter and is re-emited as a lower form of energy or even as matter. This is the "Bremsestrahlen" of Dr. Hans Neiper. This energy can be re-emmitted as a lower form of energy such as in the electromagnetic spectrum, light, x-rays, gamma, ultraviolet, etc. What is higher energy? Aether energy is higher energy which is also blocked by the Black Sun. In fact, the Black Sun does not really suck in matter or energy---it completely absorbs it. This means, for instance, that light, aether, dark matter, matter, etc. are pushing on one side of the Back Sun and not the other. Subsitute the word "gravity" for Aether and you quickly find the real Unified Theory of Physics.

    Returning to the ring of re-admission of energy surrounding the Black Sun, this area is so far away from the Black Sun that energy can escape. These emissions contain a large percentage of x-rays and gamma rays.

    Pushkin, you are right, there was no official religion during the 3rd Reich. The case has been made that the real religion was the "Blood", in other words, the gene pool. To me this is the essence of National Socialism, but this is another topic. We are discussing the concept of the Black Sun.

    Himmler looked all over the Reich for a "spiritual home", a castle. He talked, for instance, with Karl Schappeller in Austria. He settled on Wewelsburg, an old Saxon castle and said to be directly below and a door to Valhalla. But Himmler was not interested in Valhalla. His organizaton, die SS, was actually not to insiders what it was to outsiders. The SS was die Schwarze Sonne, the Black Sun. This castle, Wewelsburg, was to be the center, the spearpoint, of a vast university, a university teaching things forbidden in our western (jewish) culture of the modern world.

    On the floor of the lower room of the large circular tower in the castle Himmler had a Black Sun mosiac inlayed. This mosiac, for those who have not seen it or a picture of it, is a swastika varient. But instead of four arms, it had eight and a circular center. It looked like a big spider and in fact a post-war SS organization was called die Spinne, the spider. Perhaps the insider name was die Schwarze Spinne, the black spider.

    What I have said about the Black Sun the SS said about the Black Sun sixty years ago, long before any TV special, modern astro-physics or any reasonable knowledge that black holes inhabited every gallaxy. Yet, who will give the Nazis credit for this? Nobody. Nobody wants to associate the two and the correlation is 100%.

    The room of this mosiac at Wewelsburg was unusual for other reasons. Offering fires burnt surrounding the mosiac. Upon death, if possible, an SS man's ashes were returned to this spot. There is a legend, a kind of curse, which says that these soldiers would live again, after the war, in the land of those who did harm to Germany. These individuals would live again as pure Aryans. They would inflict upon the offending countries the same harm that was inflicted upon Germany. Think about immigration, for instance.

    Look, I am not advocating religion here. I don't worship any god. But if I did it would not be some weak, invisible, bearded man in the clouds whom I can spit on at will. It would be the most powerful singularity in the universe, an entity which is able to apply all the laws of physics at once, all the time.

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    Are you referring to Bremsstrahlung (in German, for "braking radition", bremse is simply broms in Swedish, meaning brake), which got a continous spectrum? It is radition emitted when an accelerated particle, such as an, electron (which is free, not bound to an atom) is deflected by an ion. As far as I can remember, the spectrum is sharp cut off (on the mininum side of the wavelength). Increasing voltage and power give shorter wavelength (with no limit).


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff
    Rattenhuber, the Black Sun absorbs all energy near its center. At some distance from the black hole or Black Sun, energy collides with matter and is re-emited as a lower form of energy or even as matter. This is the "Bremsestrahlen" of Dr. Hans Neiper.

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    Post Re: N.S./Okkult/Asatru/Thule/Vril etc

    No, there was no affirmative religion in the Third Reich..but I'd say there was a Heathen presence and I'd say not to be too hasty in naming Hitler and other Nazi leaders religions. What then of quotes such as these?

    Christianity and National Socialism mix like fire and water and cannot be united. We reject...every form of Christianity. By no means are you permitted to say anything about this publicly under any circumstances. That would mean too much unrest among the old. We must leave them in peace until they die.

    The Bible is the only foundation and highest authority of our beliefs. I know that I am responsible for whoever is persecuted contrary to our beliefs. The Aryan Regulation is a violation of our beliefs.
    - Emergency Association of Ministers

    There is really no difference among all these denominations; they are all the same; they have no future. Especially not for the Germans. Fascism can go ahead and make its peace with the churches, I will do the same. Why not? However, that will not keep me from eradicating Christianity root and branch here in Germany... One is either a German or a Christian. One cannot be both.
    - Adolf Hitler (Hermann Rauschning, Talks with Hitler, (Zurich: Zurcher Verlag, 1940)).

    Christianity and Nationalist Socialism are incompatible
    - Josef Goebbels

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