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    Post Straight From D.C. Look at this BS

    This is an e-mail sent to all service members on the east coast



    ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE

    ROUTINE

    R 091328Z AUG 02 ZYB PSN 704015I17

    FM COMNAVREG MIDLANT NORFOLK VA//01/00L//

    TO AIG 7729
    AIG 106

    UNCLAS //N05800//

    MSGID/GENADMIN/COMNAVREG MIDLANT//

    SUBJ/PROTEST ACTIVITY//

    REF/A/DOC/DOD DIR 1325.6//

    REF/B/DOC/U.S. NAVY REGULATIONS//

    REF/C/DOC/MILPERSMAN//
    POC/LCDR DEBOER/ASJA/MRDEBOER@CMAR.NAVY.MIL/(757)322-2934
    /TELSN 262-2934//

    RMKS/1. THE PURPOSE OF THIS MESSAGE IS TO MAKE MILITARY PERSONNEL
    AWARE OF POSSIBLE DISSIDENT AND PROTEST ACTIVITY AND TO SUGGEST ALL
    PERSONNEL AVOID THIS ACTIVITY.

    2. ON 24 AUG 2002, A SIGNIFICANT PROTEST IS PLANNED FOR THE LAWN OF
    THE U.S. CAPITOL. APPROXIMATELY 1,000 TO 2,000 WHITE SUPREMACISTS
    AND NEO-NAZIS WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE REPRESENTING GROUPS ALONG THE
    EAST COAST. THE GROUP IS PROTESTING THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION
    POLICY AND THE UNITED STATES SUPPORT OF ISRAEL.

    3. AS WITH MANY OF THESE PROTESTS, THERE WILL BE A CONSIDERABLE
    GROUP OF COUNTER-PROTESTORS WHO ARE LIKELY TO CONFRONT THE WHITE
    SUPREMACISTS AND NEO-NAZIS. U.S. CAPITOL POLICE AND THE JOINT
    TERRORISM TASK FORCE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT SOME VIOLENCE WILL ERUPT
    BETWEEN THE GROUPS.

    4. THESE GROUPS ARE CONSIDERED TO ESPOUSE SUPREMACIST CAUSES AND
    PARTICIPATION IS THEREFORE PROHIBITED BY REFERENCE A AND ARTICLE
    1167 OF REFERENCE B. MEMBERS WHO VIOLATE THIS REGULATION ARE

    SUBJECT TO DISCIPLINARY ACTION UNDER THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY
    JUSTICE AND/OR PROCESSING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SEPARATION PURSUANT TO
    SECTION 1910-160 OF REFERENCE C.

    5. GET THE WORD OUT. OUR FOLKS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE EVENT AND
    MAKE EFFORTS TO AVOID IT.//

    BT
    NNNN
    Last edited by CREATORSS; Friday, August 16th, 2002 at 05:24 AM.

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    So they do not let Military Personnel have White Nationalist views?

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    Post NOPE

    They can't stop how you feel, But you express it and your in the clink so fast it will make your head spin

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    From what I hear its being overrun with muds and spics anyway.

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    Is this about the protest on Isreal I was invited to? I myself will not being going but some of my friends are, should I warn them??

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    No You don't have to warn anyone. This was a e-mail the militray put out to try to stop them from going.

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    Question Did I read the message right?

    This message seems to only specifically prohibit joining the protesting groups, not the counter-protestors? Am I reading it right?

    If so, that's wrong. The military should not be taking sides on something like this.

    I realize they're trying to "get the word out" and make "folks avoid it," but that bit seemed more advisory than a direct order, violation of which carries criminal penalties. Or, is that sort of phraseology more along the line of "voluntary-mandatory," something written like advice you'd better treat as an order?

    As a taxpayer, I'm curious.

    Best,

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    Post Re: Did I read the message right?

    Originally posted by shambler
    This message seems to only specifically prohibit joining the protesting groups, not the counter-protestors? Am I reading it right?
    If so, that's wrong. The military should not be taking sides on something like this.
    I realize they're trying to "get the word out" and make "folks avoid it," but that bit seemed more advisory than a direct order, violation of which carries criminal penalties. Or, is that sort of phraseology more along the line of "voluntary-mandatory," something written like advice you'd better treat as an order?
    As a taxpayer, I'm curious.
    Well, here's what your taxes buy members of the US armed forces:
    Despite the folksy language which some commanders try to use, that was an order. It mentioned specific sections of the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) which would be violated by attending the event. Administrative separation means dishonorable discharge, and is here being threatened as a possible penalty. In other words, aside from losing any benefits like his college money, the soldier's life would be marred by a black mark that would follow his future job searches in a way that no other entity could. And yes, it is one sided. Although the order prohibiting attendance to this event also prohibits attending the counterdemonstrations, that's just because the military doesn't like it's people getting into fights (a distinct possibility if You're in a counterdemonstration). However, only white groups are classified as supremacist, so black soldiers may attend Nation of Islam demonstrations, even though they believe that blacks were the original creation, that whites were created by the devil, and that their messiah will return to kill all whites. In fact, Nation of Islam activists can and do operate on military bases, as do Latino groups like Aztlan, which formally advocates the secession of the southwest as a separate nation for Latinos only.

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    Davison6 what you describe shows quite clearly that White Nationalism is being restricted in all its exertions by Authorities. I would have thought the Nation of Islam people and the Aztlan people would get the same treatment, this is quite shocking and scandalous. Oh no, wait it is not because the media those not make it look like it.

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    Originally posted by Nazzjonalista
    Davison6 what you describe shows quite clearly that White Nationalism is being restricted in all its exertions by Authorities. I would have thought the Nation of Islam people and the Aztlan people would get the same treatment, this is quite shocking and scandalous. Oh no, wait it is not because the media those not make it look like it.
    Absolutely. It would damage their credibility too much too outright portray those freaks as peace lovers, but the media doesn't even have to do that. They simply don't mention them whenever they do an expose of "hate" groups. And of course their music subsidiaries sell Nation of Islam propaganda to white kids in the form of gangster rap. The problem is so serious that the Nation of Islam was actually designated as a recipient for federal funds in Bush's "faith-based" charity initiative. If Aztlan had a religious ideology God only knows how much they'd get.

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