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    If you're going to be retarded I will ban you. Upper Paleolithic is a type as well as a time period. French, is a language.


    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1
    Look Cosmo, for the last time, the man is FRENCH, fully FRENCH. He is of FRENCH heritage, of peasant/farmer stock and has been so for generations before any Arabs set foot in France (Historically there never had been any significant colonization of France by Moors). Deal with it. He is not of Arab origin. You freely assume this about him with no evidence other than your own prejudice.

    FYI "Upper Paleolithic" is not a type it is a time. You're reaching desperately here with these fanciful descriptions of yourself, I must say. Like I said quite clearly in my previous posts, you have a very generic appearance that would be very much at home inside and outside of Europe as well, for instance, anywhere in west Asia like Iran, Turkey, the Middle East and the Caucasus. Now you can ruminate on the subtleties of your cranio-facial indeces but in broad terms you are simply a generic Caucasoid with light skin and pigmented hair. Phenotypic equivalents to yourself may be found in Eastern Europe, West Asia and anywhere in Caucasoid territory barring India.

    Somehow you prefer to see Europe as a closed sphere genetically. That reflects a very weak knowledge of Indo-European history. I am also almost positive that you know pitifully little of the Indo-European family of languages and probably think that any IE language outside of Europe got there by magic, borrowing or conquest....not by the fact that Indo-Europeans may have been there for thousands of years speaking a mother tongue (Proto-Indo-European) that gave bith to most modern IE languages.

    As for genetic testing please tell me which tests you are referring to. I have a medical background and have been following the trends in haplotypic amd MtDNA studies of ethnicity. If you knew anything about such tests you would know that Europe is NOT a closed sphere genetically. You would also know that there are belts of allelic/genotypic clusters do not follow the tight political boundaries we would like them to therefore to suggest that the man would defined as "Arab" through such tests is IGNORANCE. If that were the case many hundreds of thousands of Europeans would also turn out to be Arab and vice versa. You might turn out to be one yourself given the nature of MtDNA durability over thousands of years. Boy, that would be a nightmare for you Cosmo, huh!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    If you're going to be retarded I will ban you. Upper Paleolithic is a type as well as a time period. French, is a language.
    Watch the name calling Cosmo. Just because you are a moderator does not mean you can be high-handed. I am making sound intelligent argument here and take offense to your labelling me as a retard. You do not own the forum and should be be mature enough to discuss things with a cool head. If "Upper Paleolithic" is a distinct racial type as you indicate then please provide some hard-core anthropological evidence (not excerpts from "March of the Titans"). A picture for comparison would help. I know that French is not a race. I disclosed his gegraphic location by expressing that he was French. That was obvious to everyone. Racially the man is Caucasoid and Dinaric/Meditarannean. However you want to put him or yourself into the stone-age ("Palaeolithic") scheme of things is up to you but like I said, Europe is NOTa closed sphere genetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1
    Watch the name calling Cosmo. Just because you are a moderator does not mean you can be high-handed. I am making sound intelligent argument here and take offense to your labelling me as a retard. You do not own the forum and should be be mature enough to discuss things with a cool head. If "Upper Paleolithic" is a distinct racial type as you indicate then please provide some hard-core anthropological evidence (not excerpts from "March of the Titans"). A picture for comparison would help. I know that French is not a race. I disclosed his gegraphic location by expressing that he was French. That was obvious to everyone. Racially the man is Caucasoid and Dinaric/Meditarannean. However you want to put him or yourself into the stone-age ("Palaeolithic") scheme of things is up to you but like I said, Europe is NOTa closed sphere genetically.

    I assume you have some personal interest in that guy being classified as European. Is it you?

    Upper Paleolithic types are Brunn, Borreby, Falish and Alpinid.

    http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/rg-brunn.htm
    http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/rg-borreby.html
    http://www.white-history.com/earlson...eoehchap2d.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    I assume you have some personal interest in that guy being classified as European. Is it you?

    Upper Paleolithic types are Brunn, Borreby, Falish and Alpinid.

    http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/rg-brunn.htm
    http://www.fikas.no/~sprocket/snpa/rg-borreby.html
    http://www.white-history.com/earlson...eoehchap2d.htm
    Thanks for the links. The first 2 are useful, the last isn't really. Skulls are useful in defining race and subrace but probably not at all valuable in suggesting skin color and other phenotypic traits that rapidly mutate(over a few thousand years) under climactic stresses. Putting aside these mutable traits those same skulls may have their metric equivalents in many places in along the Indo-European belt of genes and languages i.e including outside present day Europe.

    I have no personal interest in him being European. He just happens to be one...a very "real" one, and no, Cosmo, it is not I. I will try to find other photographs of Europeans that don't fit a narrow "mold" but are quite European. Earlier in the thread Vanessa posted such a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1
    I will try to find other photographs of Europeans that don't fit a narrow "mold" but are quite European.

    That depends how you want to define European racially. I don't view swarthy Meds as European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmocreator
    That depends how you want to define European racially. I don't view swarthy Meds as European.
    "Swarthy meds" huh? You've got issues, Cosmo. Good luck with therapy. BTW, please share with us all YOUR personal idea of Europe's boundaries, perhaps a map by yourself.

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    This guy seems to be non-european in ancestry. The skin is simply too dark. He would fit in well in Turkey or Syria or maybe Albania , but not France. I have seen fellows like him who are of Moroccan ancestry.
    I agree with you that Cosmo is a very generic caucasian type. From his photograph he is definitely a white man, but not exclusively European in type. I have seen folks who look like him from France, Greece, Turkey, Iran and Iraq. I have seen Indians (i work in a civil engineering firm) who look like Cosmo, except that they have rounder and deeper set eyes and are a shade darker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1
    "Swarthy meds" huh? You've got issues, Cosmo. Good luck with therapy. BTW, please share with us all YOUR personal idea of Europe's boundaries, perhaps a map by yourself.

    The only issue I have is people like you claiming swarthy types as Europeans. The guy's hair is coarse black, his eyes are black, and his skin is brownish. You've been shunned for a week. Be grateful I didn't ban you forever.

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    Well.......I thought the guy was french, because he looked french to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tryggvi
    They do; the latter are disqualified by their contributions' lack of relevance, quality, sincerity, and/or civility.

    The rules should be reformulated soon to emphasize certain important points. It will in particular be made clear that nobody has a right to be on this board; it is a private discussion forum, and up to the administration alone who will be admitted and who enjoys the privilege to write. The minimum criteria will be legality, seriosity, quality, relevance, civility, politeness, good-will, &c. Within these borders any controversial opinion can be uttered or debated. Skadi Forum is a free speech discussion board for (higher) civilized, self-disciplined men with manners, values, virtues, knowledge and intelligence. We have no interest in the effusions of the lunatic fringe and similar creatures.

    And yes, this board is not anti-Mediterranean, nor is it anti-Alpine, anti-Nordic, or anti-Dinaric; banning 5 Mediterraneans in a row because they coincidentally all happen to bless us with mentally retarded contributions doesn't make you "anti-Med", though. Nor would it make you anti-blue-eyes if their eyes would turn out to be exclusively blue. It makes you (justifiedly) a protector of the quality standards of this board, however.

    Kind regards,

    - Thorburn

    I appreciate hearing from you on the subject because I was starting to wonder whether others were starting to think I was being too harsh.

    I think it's very simple to answer. Just ask yourself of a poster and his posts whether they promote European Culture, Racial and Spiritual Preservation as the header on the board states.

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