Classify this Indian actor

[Loki]

LOL, where did I say that? I merely pointed out the fact that people who little to no Northern European ancestry can, based on McCulloch's schitzophrenic ravings, be considered 'Nordish'

I bet McCulloch would have been considered slightly less schizophrenic (in your eyes) if he said that most Russians were Hallstatt Nordics.

I don't like this strong language that is being used to deride some authors. It is rather unhelpful to debate with. "Schitzophrenic ravings" (sic) could have been omitted.

I am willing to bet you would classify him as 'Nordish' if someone told you he was from Britain

You would lose your money, and quite frankly I find it disturbing that you would make such a comment.

The Aryans were Kurgan folk from Southern Russia, not the people ancestral to NW European.

Who cares who the Aryans were? They were not the only fair-skinned Europids around.

[Prodigal Son]

I bet McCulloch would have been considered slightly less schizophrenic (in your eyes) if he said that most Russians were Hallstatt Nordics.

No, I consider McCulloch to be psychologically disturbed not because of his deeply flawed "estimates" of the sub-racial composition of ethnic Russians (his methodology for these 'estimates', according to himself, was guessing, based on 'personal experience') but because of the numerous, highly venomous, and entirely uncalled for attacks he made on my friends and I on the now-defunct nordish_com mailing list. I can cut and paste some 'juicy excerpts' if you'd like to see what I am talking about.

You would lose your money, and quite frankly I find it disturbing that you would make such a comment.

OK, how would you classify him?

Who cares who the Aryans were?

I care, because they were my direct ancestors.

P.S. Quit taking criticism against people you probably haven't even met (i.e. McCulloch) so personally.

[Loki]

No, I consider McCulloch a to be psychologically diturbed not because of his deeply flawed "estimates" of the sub-racial composition of Russia (his methodology for these estimates, according to himself, was guessing, based on 'personal experience) but because of the numerous, highly venomous, and entirely uncalled for attacks he made on my friends and I on the now-defunct nordish_com mailing list. I can cut and paste some 'juicy excerpts' if you'd like to see what I am talking about.

Well... as you know I was also a member of the same list you describe (I was there even before you), and actually followed many of the discussions with interest. Suffice to say that if McCulloch is "psychologically disturbed" because of his emails to that list, then he is certainly not the only one... and not even the worst case of this supposed disturbedness...

OK, how would you classify him?

The Indian guy? He is some sort of mix. At best Mediterranid, but not "Nordish" in my understanding of the term. And yes, that opinion remains the same, even if he is British, Russian or German. I don't care.

P.S. Quit taking criticism against people you probably haven't even met (i.e. McCulloch) so personally.

If I desire your council one day, I will let you know. At the moment I don't need it or desire it.

[desibaba]

The Indian guy? He is some sort of mix. At best Mediterranid, but not "Nordish" in my understanding of the term. And yes, that opinion remains the same, even if he is British, Russian or German. I don't care.




I would have said he is a mixture of irano-afghan, med, and a slight nordic strain(exact type is unidentifiable). This is probably what the future population of many European nations will look like after they absorb all their kurds and turks. I am not throwing africans into the mix yet.

[anfernee]

he is an aryan indian, whats the big deal? of course they look european. they are caucasians. semites and dravidians and north african hamites are not.

[Prodigal Son]

not "Nordish" in my understanding of the term.

What exactly is your understanding of the term? I am curious, because virtually everyone here has his own definition. Are Catherine Zeeta Jones and George Harrison 'Nordish'? Is Anna Kournikova 'Nordish'? I've met people who said that Kournikova wasn't 'Nordish', and others who said that Jones and Harrison weren't 'Nordish.'

If I desire your council one day, I will let you know. At the moment I don't need it or desire it.

Way to shrug off friendly advice! What the hell is your problem lately? I am not criticizing you, or NW Europeans. I've made it very clear, that unlike certain people I have absolutely nothing against the Kelto-Germanic peoples. I am criticizing one individual, who happens to be of NW European ancestry (i.e. McCulloch), and my criticisms regarding the deficiencies of his Nordish concept are certainly valid.

[anfernee]

Who cares who the Aryans were? They were not the only fair-skinned Europids around.

aryans are the only europids around. whats the big deal about that guy? you guys are too bent up on terms like nordic etc, that guy is aryan, plain and simple. many indians (north mostly) are aryan and look white.

[anfernee]

Again, I think this conclusively proves the utter idiocy of McCulloch's 'Nordish' concept, because look as this man may, he's still closer to any given Middle-Easterner genetically than any European. In any case, this phenotype is extremely rare in India. One of the highest-caste Brahmin groups in Northern India has only 12% light eyes.

have you seen hdd's father? LOL i will show you, he looks french/german.....

[Loki]

What exactly is your understanding of the term? I am curious, because virtually everyone here has his own definition. Are Catherine Zeeta Jones and George Harrison 'Nordish'? Is Anna Kournikova 'Nordish'? I've met people who said that Kournikova wasn't 'Nordish', and others who said that Jones and Harrison weren't 'Nordish.'

I don't have time now for lengthy essays, but in the strictest sense, Nordish implies people of Nordic European ancestry, blended with several other local Caucasoid varieties - but not so much that the Nordic phenotype is completely replaced by something else. Nordish is not a purity concept, but one of approximation. How far the "Nordish" phenotype can divert from the most typical Nordic one, and still be considered "Nordish", is currently at best based on personal opinions. I am sure you have your own standards of assimilability, too.

Way to shrug off friendly advice! What the hell is your problem lately? I am not criticizing you, or NW Europeans. I've made it very clear, that unlike certain people I have absolutely nothing against the Kelto-Germanic peoples. I am criticizing one individual, who happens to be of NW European ancestry (i.e. McCulloch), and my criticisms regarding the deficiencies of his Nordish concept are certainly valid.

I don't care who the person is you are criticising - your criticism can remain - but just do it nicely and in a civilized, well-mannered way. What will you do if McCulloch decides to join the forum one day? Start swearing at him? We need to keep emotionalisms off the board, as it is deviating from the purpose of this classifications section. If your posts don't comply to the civility standards, then they will be either removed or edited.

[Prodigal Son]

have you seen hdd's father? LOL i will show you, he looks french/german.....

No, I haven't seen hdd's father. I have seen hdd though, and, to me he looks like a very typical Indian.

Edit: his father doesn't look French or German. You must be joking (as always).