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    Historical and Esoteric History of the Black Sun

    Die Schwarze Sonne

    Der zentrale Lichtpunkt, die schoepferische Kraft, ein Augenblick der Ewigkeit - ein immerwaehrender Prozess, der keinen Anfang und kein Ende zu haben scheint! (Achtzehn Seite)

    http://bluthof.homepage.t-online.de/schwarzesonne.html


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    AW: Historical, Esoteric, History of the Schwarze Sonne

    The link doesen't funktionating.

    Der Link funzt net!

    M.,
    "Ich will den Frieden - und ich werde alles daransetzen, um den Frieden zu schließen. Noch ist es nicht zu spät. Dabei werde ich bis an die Grenzen des Möglichen gehen, soweit es die Opfer und Würde der deutschen Nation zulassen. Ich weiß mir Besseres als Krieg!
    Adolf Hitler nach Beendigung des Frankreich-Feldzuges in einem Gespräch mit seinem Architekten Prof. Hermann Giesler, Giesler: "Ein anderer Hitler", Seite 395



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    Re: Historical, Esoteric, History of the Schwarze Sonne

    Here is a link to a pdf file of what seems to be the same article:

    http://www.free-hp.com/userdaten/126...nne___isis.pdf

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    Re: Historical, Esoteric, History of the Schwarze Sonne

    Thank you White Iceland for saving me.

    Danke sehr White Iceland fuer meine Rettung.

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    Runic Interpretation of the Schwarze Sonne

    An interesting article has just been brought to my attention:

    http://www.geocities.com/odinistlibr...warzesonne.htm

    Perhaps someone should at this item to the Skadi library.

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    Re: Runic interpretation of the Schwarze Sonne

    The article states:

    Interestingly, an identical rendering of Wewelsburg’s Schwartzsonne may be found as a wall painting at a WWII military bunker at Hamburg below a statue of Bismark. Its origins are unknown.

    -end quote-

    This is not particularly accurate as there are obvious differences.

    See this thread for more info:

    http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...e4cb8dfef1871f

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    Re: Runic interpretation of the Schwarze Sonne

    From the article:

    Granted, this purpose was greatly distorted by the unenlightened Nazi ethic when the SS took over Castle Wewelsburg in January of 1939. The Nazis associated the glyph with strange theories of Atlantis and its supposed language called “Vril.”

    I think I'll go with the "unenlightened" Nazis concering interpetation of the Black Sun. But this article great in knowledge of the runes shown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Solar Wolff View Post
    I think I'll go with the "unenlightened" Nazis concering interpetation of the Black Sun. But this article great in knowledge of the runes shown.
    An important reference to the Black Sun comes in the Eddas - especially when you consider that Guido von List took the Eddas as the philosophical foundation for his Armanen Runes.

    The Black Sun here signals the Ragnarok;

    "Earth sinks in the sea,
    The sun turns black,
    The shining stars shake in the sky,
    Fumes rage, flames grumble,
    The sky is scorched with fire".
    [Voluspa, 57]

    http://www.geocities.com/odinistlibr...warzesonne.htm

    There are some glaring errors in this article by Steve Anthonijsz.

    First, the symbol from Wewelsburg was not identified as being the Black Sun symbol until the early 1990s by the writer R McCloud [Die schwarze Sonne von Tashi Lhunpo, 1991].

    Second, Anthonijsz says that the symbol needs to be understood using von List's Armanen Futharkh. It is strange then how when I corresponded with him he rejected the concept that von List deliberately used reversed runes.

    This may be why Anthonijsz didn't notice that the so-called Sig Runes in the Black Sun symbol are all reversed in such a way that von List did not use them!

    The Wewelsburg 'Black Sun' symbol

    Note how all the Sig Rune 'spokes' to the sun-wheel are reversed or inverted versions of the usual Sig Rune employed by von List and the usual Futhark forms;

    Standard Sig Rune as employed by von List etc.,

    Clearly the Wewelsburg symbol uses inverted Sig Runes, in way that von List doesn't, but Wiligut does!

    So Anthonijsz should be looking at Wiligut's runes, not von List's.

    While Wiligut was inspired by von List, his own system is quite different.
    He used the standard Sig Rune but also the reversed version of the same rune in his system - Wiligut was unique in doing this.

    In his 'Runes Speak!', Wiligut writes of the inverted form;

    "Demoniacally inverted it appears as Zil. As 'zig-zag' - this ends the game of life in rest"

    So the Wewelsburg runes are Zil runes ['limitation runes'(?)], not Sig runes ['victory runes'], and therefore have a completely different - almost opposite - meaning; Wiligut is the relevant authority here, not von List.

    Note that they are described as "Demoniacal"; note that they signify "rest".
    This is in line with the view of the Black Sun betokening the Twilight of the Gods, the Ragnarok; a benighted period.
    It pre-empts the defeat [not 'victory'] of 1945 which in itself gave fuel to the Black Sun movement itself.

    The Zil Rune symbolises the fact that National Socialism is now latent, waiting to be revived when the Reich will rise again and the Black Sun will be transformed into a Silver-White Sun of victory.

    Likewise, the two runes in the centre of this other Black Sun symbol cannot be interpreted according to their use by von List but rather according to their Wiligutian interpretation;



    But before I go on, does anyone have have any other information on this last symbol?
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    Re: Runic interpretation of the Schwarze Sonne

    Moody Lawless, please continue with your thoughts. Something has occurred to me. This BS symbol would also be a symbol for a black hole which is a Schaubergian vortex. Both the top and bottom are vortices, each spiraling inwardly. So, if you looked down on it from the top, the Sig or Zil runes would be going in one direction but if you looked up from the bottom, the direction in which the runes indicated a spiral would be reversed since each half of the double vortex would be going in the opposite direction.

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    Re: Runic interpretation of the Schwarze Sonne

    Quote Originally Posted by Moody Lawless View Post



    But before I go on, does anyone have have any other information on this last symbol?

    On the dead centre;
    "They must "turn" - around the misery of Kala,
    hold original- knowledge kalically..." - Willigut, p.67.

    The fact that there are two probably means the above in itself is also grounded by the same law.

    On p.86, it corresponds to the twin-sign Gemini.

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