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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Autumn View Post
    Work with them against the West ?
    Maybe,although its the jews i see behind usury,wars,corruption,pornogrphy,immigra tion etc etc not the muslims.
    One thing at a time....first the jews.....then the muslims.,not the other way round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godwinson View Post
    Well many posters are putting forward developed arguments.
    Islam is undoubtedly a bulwark against the NWO and a counterweight to the Zionist forces that are driving it.
    Proof it.

    Saving western civilization may not be their top priority
    Since when is it even on their list.

    I don't like the way that Muslims are being constantly set up in the Zionist-controlled media and the sooner the public sees through this
    The media who says that it is a religion of peace, indeed, the zionist media is wrong about that.

    This is not to say that Islam has any long-term future in the West; it doesn't! But some aspects of it could certainly be utilised to good effect against our common foe.
    Give one aspect.

    It sudenly feels like i am on a leftist multiculturalist forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    Maybe,although its the jews i see behind usury,wars,corruption,pornogrphy,immigra tion etc etc not the muslims.
    One thing at a time....first the jews.....then the muslims.,not the other way round.
    I have no problem if the muzzies leave first.

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    The time when i looked at youtube i saw allot of ''white nationalists'' befriending muzzies, if this is the so called ''movement'' then its in a worse shape then i previously thought, and i didn't like it then either.

    When i asked them why they just call me and others jews and zionists, no arguments.

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    it is as well an historical fact beyond dispute that it was the learning and sophistication of the Arab culture that led to many of the scientific developments that would later make Europe the cradle of science, learning and advancement.
    Yeah, because, you know, a people like the Arabs who were nomadic desert-dwellers (they lived in tents and sacrificed their children to Baal) for centuries upon centuries could suddenly just one day rise up and create a very sophisticated culture out of thin air.

    What a load of bullsh*t!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyAtkins View Post
    first the jews.....then the muslims.,not the other way round.
    For going on a hundred years now, the fringe far-right has been whacking it's head against the same Jewish roadblock, generations have been born and died and there's been *no* progress in that regard. Though Westerners are quickly warming up to the idea of purging Muslims...

    It's worth noting here that it's taken subversive liberalism and it's Jews centuries to get us to this point, the West doesn't have decades left with Islam inside the house. The symptom has clearly overtaken the problem in terms of immediacy.

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    Besides the fact that Western Civilization began in the area of the Fertile Crescent, also know as Mesopotamia (present day Iraq),

    This is an outright exaggeration, the Ancient Persians up to the Islamic Era were known as White People and were probably the default Whites of the Ancient World.

    beauty is relative, the Ethiopians preferring the blackest and the most flat-nosed and the Persians approving the whitest and the most hook-nosed.
    Sextus Empiricus (Adv. Ethicos, 43.) 1st Century A.D

    it is as well an historical fact beyond dispute that it was the learning and sophistication of the Arab culture that led to many of the scientific developments that would later make Europe the cradle of science, learning and advancement

    First off there is no such thing as "Arab" Culture. What we call Arab or Muslim Culture was a direct Carbon Copy of Byzantium THE EUROPEAN GREEK Civilization and of course the Persians. Also note when the Muhammedans became a power majority of Arabs and Muslims were illiterate it was the Jews, Christians, Egyptians etc that translated books from the libraries of Byzantium from Latin into Arabic. Also lets not forget the Chinese and Indians who were captured and forced to translate their works into Arabic...So the only Common Factor here was Arabic... it was the fact that Muslims be they poor or Elite needed to read the Koran(I.E Literate Public) that gave Islam its advantage, nothing more nothing less.

    After the institutionalization of the Islamic religion throughout the Mediterranean region, the extent of Arab learning and culture was such that European Kings, Christian Kings, would send their sons and daughters to be educated in Moslem places such as Cordova and Toledo.

    What this Muslim forgets to add is that Majority of the Population of Europe at this time, of those that were conquered, converted to Islam. The Moorish King of Al-Andalus was described as being pure Vandal or NORDIC in appearance with Red Hair and blue eyes.(Abd Rahman 3).. These people adoped Islam and it was the Vandal Remnants along with the Christian Spanish that contributed to the sophistication of Muslim Spain and the advantage of a literate public. Funny how these Sophisticated Arab Empires were Located in Europe and Not Africa or Arabia. The best that could compete was Baghdad and Fatamid Egypt and the Latter only becoming advanced after the Mamluk or White Slave Soldiers from Europe took
    control of the Economy and Political scene.

    Christian Crusaders coming back from the Middle East told of the richnes of Arab culture, leading to Europeans' desire for Arab goods, which in turn led to trade routes between Europe and the Middle East.

    Christian Crusaders also wrote highly of the Christian BYZANTINE EMPIRE Where the MUSLIMS RECEIVED THEIR KNOWLEDGE FROM but of course this person must have forgot about that. The Western Europeans were cut off from the knowledge of the Byzantine Empire by the Muslim Factions and despite that we have the magnificent Gothic and Romanesque periods developed on the intellect and creativity of Europeans North and Western Europeans, unlike Arabs who recieved their skills and understand from Byzantium and Persia.

    The resulting wealth created from that trade with the Arabs led to the ascendancy of power for European city-states such as Venice and Florence, which became the birthplaces of the Renaissance in Europe. This had nothing to do with the Renaissance which was HUMANIST in origin and had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM whatso ever, as a matter of fact had Michelangelo, Brunelleschi, or any of the Florentines been Muslims they would have been beheaded for being Kaffir and the fact that the Renaissance was Humanists drawing heavily on the Art, measuring, and Drawing of the Human Form(Circle and Square) proves the Renaissance would have been impossible in Muslim society which forbids the drawing of the human form. As a matter of fact Humanism in Muslim art is Pure European influence in origin as Muslims are forbidden to reproduce the human form..proves how influential the European Christian was on Islamic Art from the Begining.


    Arab advancements in navigation


    The Vikings were more advanced Navigators than the Arabs.

    from the Astrolabe to the compass to the fast sailing ship known as the Caravel made possible the arrival in the New World of the Europeans


    The Compass came from China, the Astrolab from Greeks, the Sailing Ship from Egypt, the Vikings discoverd the Americas while the Arabs did not.

    What will gall Americans even more, especially those who call themselves Christian, is the idea that it may be the Arab and Muslim culture that will be not only the birthplaces of Western Civilization, but the saviour of it as well.

    There is nothing Arab or Muslim about the Birth Place of Western Civilization, as the PERSIANS, the Whites of the Ancient East are not Arabs(Must I provide Literature on how the Persians felt about Arabs) and the Christian Beyzantine Empire, whom this Dumbass Muslim Nigger seems to purposely leave out, Gave the Muslims their culture.

    To the 'New World', and by default the New World Order, the Arab/Muslim world is backword in its values.


    Should we Post and Discuss the sharia Homelands of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Somalia, the biggest Shitholes on Earth?? What about Yemen and Pakistan?? The fact that Mideval Whites Embraced Islam for a period proves that White people are the Most Advanced people in History as Whites made Islam Great and Niggers and Arabs at best can create Somalia and Yemen.

    Islam is a Backward Religion, which is why Arabs and Nigger Muslims Run their asses to the West to escape from getting killed by their Muslim brothers, Why Muslims come to the West and Breed like Roaches in Europe. Why the Turks adoped European Culture(Were they ever Muslims considering they built off of Byzantium).

    (and lets make it clear I have high respect for African Christian Kingdoms, Compare the Christian Ethiopians, a highly advanced, literate people to the Muslim Somali. Hell Compare the Christian Nubians and Egyptians to the Egyptians of today and the Darfur crises, Islam is a cancer not only in Europe but in the world)..


    It prohibits abortion and birth control.


    also allows the beating of Women.

    They have large families, as opposed to the West, where the average family has only two children.

    Go have kids in your own lands.

    It prohibits usury banking, to which the West credits its own economic superiority. Theirs is a 'closed' society (read into this no sodomy, pornography, gay lifestyle, et al).


    Usery was and is forbidden in Christianity, its the JEW not the Christian who added Usery when they took over the Banking and Monetary systems. this is well Easy to research.

    'The religion of Mohammed is better than the religion of Jesus Christ?! No, rather, what is meant here is that the religion of Islam resembles Christianity more than does the Christianity of the West today, because the Christianity of the West today isn't Christianity at all, but a watered-down amalgamation of New Ageism mixed with certain common spiritual attributes that, although called Christian, can be found in almost every known religion.

    The Religion of Islam is NO WAY more Similar to the Original Christianity, First off the Arabs changed the Sabbath to Friday, Changed the Holy Days to Rhamadan, Changed the Holy City from Jerusalem to Mecca. They Claim Jesus was just a Prophet etc. The List goes on. The Muslims Plagerized the Torah and New Testament plain and simple.

    Second the Closest of anything on Earth to the Original Christians would be Ethiopian Orthodox(due to Isolation) followed various Eastern Orthodox sects. The former still worships on the Sabbath as well as Sunday, have some older Christian Texts etc.

    Amazing at the deception, Me a Layman reasearcher and student of history seems to know more on this subject than this Muslim.

    By the description 'Arabic/Islamic,' It should not be understood as solely a 'Muslim' thing.


    Who is this guy??, I want to debate, destroy and humuliate him..??


    If by some miracle, the Arab/Muslim World is victorious against this onslaught, and the secular/atheistic influence of the NWO agenda is reduced to such a level as to allow the Christian West to regain its foothold where it once stood, it will be necessary to credit the religion of Islam and the Arab world for not buckling under in the face of extermination. And it will be the Christian West and Western Civilization, who will be beneficiaries of 'Islamic Extremism.'


    A bunch of Rubbish, all this talk about Peaceful Islam and Moderates..

    White people need to WAKE UP..God Damnit, These Arabs are taking credit for the Blood Sweat and Tears of European Whites, Over Running the West, and now they are Talking shit in the face of Europeans. They are not here to assimilate.

    Millions of White people probably take this shit for face value, without knowing the deception of these people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient Autumn View Post
    The time when i looked at youtube i saw allot of ''white nationalists'' befriending muzzies, if this is the so called ''movement'' then its in a worse shape then i previously thought, and i didn't like it then either.

    When i asked them why they just call me and others jews and zionists, no arguments.
    Amazing, On Youtube Im friends with Anti-Muslims who some(very few) Support Israel. which is why many W.N befriend Muslims, and which is why for some reason these people think they are white.

    I don't know but we need to start a Christian No Muslim non Jew group on Youtube, many already Support Europe and Christianity..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ædiruc View Post
    Yeah, because, you know, a people like the Arabs who were nomadic desert-dwellers (they lived in tents and sacrificed their children to Baal) for centuries upon centuries could suddenly just one day rise up and create a very sophisticated culture out of thin air.

    What a load of bullsh*t!
    The Arabs were illiterate Nomadic Renegades up unto the time of Muhammed who was illiterate himself.

    No other people were and are as backward as Arabs, Europeans, Africans, Persians etc had civilization Prior to the Arab. and they expect us to believe these people who have nothing to their name besides Petra in Jordan created sophisticated civilization on European Soil..but left their homelands or Yemen and Arabia rabid shitholes full of Mud and Sand Huts...

    Historically its a Lie and We can see it today..

    Somalia, Sudan and Arabia are the products of Islam untouched by European Minds...
    Amazing, More Amazing is that no one challenges this shit..

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    um does 9/11 ring a bell to anyone besides me? as an American...we have a muslim (who may as well be islamic) in our office. look at what our country is becoming, he's going on vacation and printing dollars backed by nothing.
    they want nothing but the destruction of western civilization and now these terrorists have a way in here, through our "president".
    George Washington is turning in his grave.
    Where's Reagan?!

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    While there is much to admire of the traditional spiritual practices of Sufism......modern Islam retains almost none of the mystical aspects of Sufism....and yet relies on literal interpretations of mystical hyperbole.....much the same way Judaism ignores the essence of the Kabbalah, and Christianity knows nothing of the spiritual initiation practices of St Ignatius of Loyola and the early Jesuits. Yet....all of these practices were literally absconded from the ancient Aryan mystics, and watered down and reworked to reflect a regional cultural paradigm.......which is why none of these semetic faiths can lay claim to true trancendence, and instead rely on literalism as a path to enlightenment....which frankly is a dead end. That being said.......I see no practical application of Islam as a spiritually rectifying bulwark against western decadence, it's very roots lay in the earliest applications of western decadence......spiritual debasement, human exaltation, and exploitation of nature.
    Bah! Enough of the squalor of democratic humanity. It is time to begin to recognise the aristocracy of the sun. The children of the sun shall be lords on the earth.
    -D.H. Lawrence

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernDawn View Post
    While there is much to admire of the traditional spiritual practices of Sufism......modern Islam retains almost none of the mystical aspects of Sufism....and yet relies on literal interpretations of mystical hyperbole.....much the same way Judaism ignores the essence of the Kabbalah, and Christianity knows nothing of the spiritual initiation practices of St Ignatius of Loyola and the early Jesuits. Yet....all of these practices were literally absconded from the ancient Aryan mystics, and watered down and reworked to reflect a regional cultural paradigm.......which is why none of these semetic faiths can lay claim to true trancendence, and instead rely on literalism as a path to enlightenment....which frankly is a dead end. That being said.......I see no practical application of Islam as a spiritually rectifying bulwark against western decadence, it's very roots lay in the earliest applications of western decadence......spiritual debasement, human exaltation, and exploitation of nature.
    Islam = nothing to admire! I am so sick of reading about how we need to have Allies to defeat the forces facing the western world....well no <expletive deleted> Sherlock! We need to meet these forces head on while we still have the strength to do it!

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