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    well she could have been an indian with mostly aryan genes and that what makes her caucasian looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenson
    Here's a definition dan-dan:

    1. Anthropology: Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as yellowish-brown skin pigmentation, straight black hair, dark eyes with pronounced epicanthic folds, and prominent cheekbones and including peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia.
    Let's keep the insults to PMs or not at all, eh?
    What about epicanthic folds, cheekbones and wavy hair? What about all of the above, but with white skin? What about long-headed northern chinese, short-headed southerners? What about the range, from white to black, found among east-asian peoples, the varation of phenotypes. You have already plead ignorance as to this subject, which is fine. What has changed since then? And yes, insults should be left out!

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    [QUOTE=dan-dan]
    Quote Originally Posted by Allenson
    Here's a definition dan-dan:

    1. Anthropology: Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as yellowish-brown skin pigmentation, straight black hair, dark eyes with pronounced epicanthic folds, and prominent cheekbones and including peoples indigenous to central and eastern Asia.
    Let's keep the insults to PMs or not at all, eh?QUOTE]

    What about epicanthic folds, cheekbones and wavy hair? What about all of the above, but with white skin? What about long-headed northern chinese, short-headed southerners? What about the range, from white to black, found among east-asian peoples, the varation of phenotypes. You have already plead ignorance as to this subject, which is fine. What has changed since then? And yes, insults should be left out!
    I was merely prividing you with a definition that I found online.

    I said that I am not familiar with the various subtypes but that I recognize a member of the greater Mongoloid family when I see one....I can do that with relative ease.

    Of course there is variation within a race or even a subtype. It would be silly to say otherwise.

    Answer me this then dan-dan: What terminology do you like to use when discussing such matters? Again, you refute but offer nothing in return. you claimed that you are not an agent-provocateur but I'm having my doubts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenson
    I was merely prividing you with a definition that I found online.

    I said that I am not familiar with the various subtypes but that I recognize a member of the greater Mongoloid family when I see one....I can do that with relative ease.

    Of course there is variation within a race or even a subtype. It would be silly to say otherwise.

    Answer me this then dan-dan: What terminology do you like to use when discussing such matters? Again, you refute but offer nothing in return. you claimed that you are not an agent-provocateur but I'm having my doubts.
    I would simply prefer it if people would not mix terms which are only relevant in the broadest "racial" terms with terms which have specific meaning concerning phenotype. Mostly people on this site do not, but unfortunately most people rely solely on Coon's 'races of europe', and are completely unqualified to make any comment on non-europeans, with the exception of saying that they seem 'mongoloid' or 'negroid'.
    Despite the fact that Coon was an old huckster with questionable methods, I'm sure he himself would question using those terms in those contexts, too...
    My first postings on this site were comments on a swedish girl who everybody labeled 'mongoloid' and therefore non-swedish. It is from there and onward that I've formed my opinion of the intellegence and quality of this site. There are people who post here who are intellegent and insightful, but there are many whose only frame of reference for life outside their suburban wasteland is a copy of a book that was about 20 years out of date when it was first published, let alone now. I am not a provocateur, but it can be hard to keep a straight face in light of some of the ill-informed tomfoolery to be found on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan-dan
    I would simply prefer it if people would not mix terms which are only relevant in the broadest "racial" terms with terms which have specific meaning concerning phenotype. Mostly people on this site do not, but unfortunately most people rely solely on Coon's 'races of europe', and are completely unqualified to make any comment on non-europeans, with the exception of saying that they seem 'mongoloid' or 'negroid'.
    Despite the fact that Coon was an old huckster with questionable methods, I'm sure he himself would question using those terms in those contexts, too...
    My first postings on this site were comments on a swedish girl who everybody labeled 'mongoloid' and therefore non-swedish. It is from there and onward that I've formed my opinion of the intellegence and quality of this site. There are people who post here who are intellegent and insightful, but there are many whose only frame of reference for life outside their suburban wasteland is a copy of a book that was about 20 years out of date when it was first published, let alone now. I am not a provocateur, but it can be hard to keep a straight face in light of some of the ill-informed tomfoolery to be found on this site.
    Then you are obviously too smart for us, dan-dan. You'd better find another forum with a high enough intellectual average for your genius. Sorry that we have dragged you down and underappreciated your brain power and underestimated your exhaustive knowledge on anthropology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Then you are obviously too smart for us, dan-dan. You'd better find another forum with a high enough intellectual average for your genius. Sorry that we have dragged you down and underappreciated your brain power and underestimated your exhaustive knowledge on anthropology.
    I already have found another forum, but I always find myself coming back here. Why?
    It's your beard, Loki.
    I find it INTOXICATING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan-dan
    Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me, then, on exactly what Indid means, in terms of a person's physiognomy? Or Mongoloid, for that matter...
    In fact, provide me with even one (reputable) citation defining either of these fantastical categories and you will be rewarded with $10, CASH!
    And, dear cosmo, merely making remarks concerning my ignorance without offering to set it right make a person look a little...how you say....ignorant, if not stupid, themself. Okay?
    I don't think anthropologists of the past were complete on determining racial types. I think all measurements have to be taken in reference to each other.

    Saying something like the nose is long yet low-rooted and low-bridged. Therefore they are Mongoloid. That is incomplete. That is one trait. There needs to be proportions like the Zygomatic Arches are 85% of the Auricular Head Height which is 65% of Glabello-Occiputal Length, for example.

    We may not always agree totally on classifying someone. But we can tell a Dinaric from an Brunn. No one who is vaguely knowledgeable would confuse the two. We can also tell a Mongoloid from a Negro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan-dan
    I would simply prefer it if people would not mix terms which are only relevant in the broadest "racial" terms with terms which have specific meaning concerning phenotype. Mostly people on this site do not, but unfortunately most people rely solely on Coon's 'races of europe', and are completely unqualified to make any comment on non-europeans, with the exception of saying that they seem 'mongoloid' or 'negroid'.
    Despite the fact that Coon was an old huckster with questionable methods, I'm sure he himself would question using those terms in those contexts, too...
    My first postings on this site were comments on a swedish girl who everybody labeled 'mongoloid' and therefore non-swedish. It is from there and onward that I've formed my opinion of the intellegence and quality of this site. There are people who post here who are intellegent and insightful, but there are many whose only frame of reference for life outside their suburban wasteland is a copy of a book that was about 20 years out of date when it was first published, let alone now. I am not a provocateur, but it can be hard to keep a straight face in light of some of the ill-informed tomfoolery to be found on this site.

    You seem not to like the term Mongoloid. Do you have another term in mind with which to describe the major branch of humanity that is native to eastern and much of central Asia?

    What terms do you see as being mixed "which are only relevant in the broadest "racial" terms with terms which have specific meaning concerning phenotype."?

    Well dan-dan, you'll have to pardon our ignorance. Many of us come here (and other places...be they books, websites, etc.) to learn. I'd like to add that if you carefully read through the anthropology forums here, you'll find citations to many authors besides Coon. So, while his subracial scheme is likely indeed the one that posters here are more familiar with, I think you'll find evidence that (gasp!) there is quite a lot of interest in learning beyond Coon's TRoE.

    You're a pretty presumptuous fellow aren't you? I find it quite curious and utterly fascinating that you have such an insight into the minds of people who post on this forum. How do you do it? Where does your genius stem from? Why are you wasting time with us thralls? Do you wish to educate us all and enlighten us as to ways of the world?

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    Well there are thousands of Punjabi women looking like this Med type Jewish girl..my mother has the same type of skin and features she has..

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