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    Lightbulb What is Aryan and Why We Should Use the Word

    Most people are confused about the word Aryan. Many Eurocentric preservationists, and even some National Socialists, are confused about it!

    I consider this to be negative for the people, especially for National Socialists, since I believe the word Aryan is very important for Eurocentric people. It is my believe that every person for the preservation (and advancement) of our race should understand the word Aryan.

    What does Aryan mean?

    The word Aryan (Ar'y-an) is from the Indo-European language family.
    Ar = superior / noble. So an Aryan is a person who is superior / noble. Aryans are persons who are superior / noble.

    Ar is not just something which scholars started using in the 18th century, like some leftists would like people to believe. Nor is Ar something the National Socialists of the Third Reich just decided to distort or abuse (they did not distort nor abuse it). Ar/Ir is something which has been used by our people, Europids, since history began. Ar has been used in both east and west for a very long time! Spelled and pronounced differently sometimes, sure, but the meaning is the same.

    I will now list related words (
    all having roughly the same meaning and many, not all, being etymologically related) in Indo-European languages.
    • Sanskrit: Arya (kind , favourable; attached to , true , devoted , dear; excellent, master , lord, a respectable, a man highly esteemed, or honourable or faithful man, an owner)
    • Anglo Saxon: Ár(honour, worth; glory, dignity; grace, prosperity; kindness, benefit, help)
    • Old German: era
    • Germanic: erilaz = (member of the noble class, Runemaster)
    • German: ehre = (honour, honesty, praise)
    • Irish: Aire
    • Dutch: eer
    • Greek: αριστος
    • Ancient Greek: Aristos = (best, noblest)
    • Persian: áriya
    • Latin: ars (Art)
    • Icelandic: ađall (nobility)
    The list could be much longer.

    The Sanskrit lexicon Amarakosha (ca. 450 AD) defines Arya as: "An Arya is one who hails from a noble family, of gentle behavior and demeanor, good-natured and of righteous conduct."

    I encourage people to do their own research on this, like finding similar words in their mother tongue and comparing it with other similar words in other languages.

    Germanic Lexicon project
    Old English glossary for Beowulf
    English-Greek word search
    Philology of Ethnic Epithet of Iranian Peoples

    Now that we understand the word Aryan we must ask
    Who were Aryans in the past and who are Aryan now?!

    The Aryans of the past were the most noble / superior people of the past. The most noble / superior people of the past were of what would be called a Nordic / Europid race. Why were they Aryans (noble/superior)? Be cause they were the most creative! We define superiority on
    demonstrated ability and/or achievement. They as the Master-race founded all civilizations and dominated inferior slave-race peoples.

    See indogermanen.de.vu


    Are all of the Nordic / Europid race Aryans?

    The Euoropid as a whole compared to the Negroid race can be considered Aryans. But can we truly say the being of the Europid race automatically makes one Aryan? No, since most of the Europid race in this point in time are non-creative slave people. Only an Elite of the Europid race in this point in time are creative with a Master mentality, thus only an Elite of the Europid race can be considered Aryan.

    Can other races be Aryan?

    Yes, but only if we put them in groups. For example the most superior people of Asia would be the Japanese, they could thus be considered Asian Aryans. However they could not be called Aryans when compared on a global scale since the Europids are superior as demonstrated by
    ability and/or achievement.

    Now that we know what Aryan means and who are Aryans we must ask ourselves
    Why should we use the word Aryan?

    As explained above the word Aryan, sometimes spelled differently, is a word that has been used by the Europids since the dawn of history (at least 7000 years). It is a part of our culture, the culture we are fighting to preserve and advance. Even though the meaning of the word is widely misunderstood we should never stop using it, seeing that our enemies distort the meaning of all our words. For example they have distorted the meaning National Socialism (pro-Life) in the eyes of the masses into something which is "evil" and dishonorable, they dub it Nazism. It has become clear to me that our enemies think that by distorting and destroying the meaning of our words (our tools for communication) they can distort our movement. If we do as they will and stop using words just be cause they have been distorted we let our enemies see how effective their methods are. Aryan is a part of our identity. We must use and guard our great words!

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    National-Socialism believes that it is natural and necessary for individuals to have a real sense of belonging and identity: to have roots in a particular land which they value and respect as the home of their ancestors and thus of their own culture. National-Socialism is Aryan culture.
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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    It is incorrect to use the word "Aryan" to refer to Indo-Europeans in general (let alone Caucasians), since it was only ever used by a specific group (Indo-Iranian) to refer to themselves; unless someone can give an example of other IE groups who used the term.

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhydderch
    It is incorrect to use the word "Aryan" to refer to Indo-Europeans in general (let alone Caucasians), since it was only ever used by a specific group (Indo-Iranian) to refer to themselves; unless someone can give an example of other IE groups who used the term.
    One could make a similar argument against the use of terms like Slavic, Teutonic, etc.

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    Exclamation Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    To me it's just a term which Third Reich propagandist's unjustly stole from non-European civilizations for their own self-gratification.

    It's an outdated and overused term which is far more loosely defined then "White".

    When I think of that term I usally imagine a bunch of 17 year-old skinheads on some White Power Board arguing over what is White.

    Or I think of these guys!



    German and Germanic racialist's should be more concerned over what is racially, ethnically, and culturally Germanic then over what is "Aryan".

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Quote Originally Posted by Thulean Imperial Inquisitor
    Ar is not just something which scholars started using in the 18th century, like some leftist would like people to believe. Nor is Ar something the National Socialists of the Third reich just decieded to distort (they did not distort it). Ar/Ir is something which has been used by our people, the Europids, since history began. Ar has been used in both the east and the west all the time! Spelled and prunounced diffrently sometimes, sure, but the meaning is the same.

    THen why do you insist on us using the Indian form? It may have been alright in the 1940s, when India was a far away romantic place, but since that time the English have become all too familiar with Indian culture brought into our OWN land, and it's nothing to look up to. I will NOT use this dirty Indian word for myself and my kin.
    The word may have been taken into India and Iran by people who looked similar to us [though hardly Nordids, or any Western Brunn/Borreby types that I would recognise as my own, never mind AtlantoMediterranids], but those people allowed themselves to be swamped in a sea of Dravidians and Munda. They are not a good example to hold up for modern Europe [or maybe they ARE in a horribly ironic multiculti way! ].
    I will now list related words in Indo-European languages.
    • Sanskrit: Arya = kind , favourable; attached to , true , devoted , dear; excellent, master , lord, a respectable, a man highly esteemed, or honourable or faithful man, an owner
    • Anglo Saxon: Ár = honour, worth; glory, dignity; grace, prosperity; kindness, benefit, help (from a Beowulf glossary)
    • Anglo Saxon:
    • Old German: era
    • Germanic: erilaz = member of the noble class, Runemaster
    • German: ehre = honour, honesty, praise
    • Irish: Aire
    • Dutch: eer
    • Greek: αριστος
    • Ancient Greek: Aristos = best, noblest
    • Persian: áriya
    • Latin: ars = Art
    • Icelandic: ađall = nobility
    The list could go on for much, much longer.
    So we have IndoAryan, Germanic, Celtic, Hellenic and Romance examples.
    Indo Europeia is bigger than that. Where are the Slavonic cognates? Where the Armenian? Where the Albanian?
    And in Romance languages, all you provide is a word denoting 'art' - i.e. something which is created. This has NO link with 'high, noble'.
    The Icelandic word is simply our AEthel, German Edel - where is the Ar-?
    THe Irish example is terrible linguistics. In truth, the Celtic family has NO reflex of any supposed Arya word.

    The list is NOT impressive. Of the supposed cognates I allow, only in Persian and Indian has the word developed a more or less ETHNIC meaning. THis has NO relevence to us in the West.

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Quote Originally Posted by Janos Hunyadi
    It's an outdated and overused term which is far more loosely defined then "White".

    When I think of that term I usally imagine a bunch of 17 year-old skinheads on some White Power Board arguing over what is White.
    I also think that when thinking of what is White. So, tell me about loosely defined terms...

    German and Germanic racialist's should be more concerned over what is racially, ethnically, and culturally Germanic then over what is "Aryan".
    Janos dixit.
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    Re: AW: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedwig
    If even National Socialists and White Nationalists (who are already ideologically oriented to some sort of preservation) are confused about it, then think of how the average Joe feels.
    Well said. There's simply no emotive power in the word. It's foreign.
    You made a comment about European "slave people". It's this mass of ignoble, average people which makes up the majority. Without incorporating them and gaining their support, I see it really hard for any progress to be made in Europe. People may as well just remain at this stage which you call "slave". It's in this case when the "enemy" will have won.
    THis prompted me to remember something which I'd forgotten to mention before, that the masses of ordinary Germanics alive today are not pure direct descendants of these IEans, 'Aryans' or whatever you want to call em. THe mass of our biological inheritance is from our pre IE ancestors. Why then should we exclusively rever the IEans, under any name, at the expense of all our other ancestors? Maybe some Nordics can get away with this more, but we in Britain certainly can't.
    And perhaps our traditional aristocracy would be the logical natural bearer of this Aryanness. What good have they done in recent years to further the cause of European cultural and racial issues?

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    I also think that when thinking of what is White. So, tell me about loosely defined terms...
    White was more of an Anglo-American term. Up until the start of the 20th Century, only Germanic descended Americans, the French, and the Scots, were seen as White. Southern Europeans, Eastern Europeans, and the Irish weren't seen as White until they adopted the cultural mannerisms of Anglo-America in large scale.

    Today, some people only think Nordids are White, some like Diabloblanco14 think that Iranians, Berbers, Turks, and Azeri's are White.

    The term "White" means different things to many different people.

    However, the most common definition of "White" refers to whatever is racially/culturally/ethnically European or of unmixed European descent.

    Janos dixit.
    What do you mean by dixit?

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Quote Originally Posted by Janos Hunyadi
    What do you mean by dixit?
    I think he meant "Janos says it" - meaning that he agrees with you. "Exactly" would be a more sympathetic translation, perhaps. That's a guess from my limited knowledge of Latin and French!

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    Re: What is Aryan and why we should use the word

    Though it is only marginally relevant, I think that I should point out that in much of the USA, specifically the sociopolitically liberal areas, the word "Aryan" is considered provocative or even a "hate word." Many states which have "vanity" license plates will not permit "Aryan" to be used on one, because it is considered provocative.

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