View Poll Results: Who here is Frisian or partly Frisian

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    Ost-Friesland was 'protected' from the saxons by a peat, with only a few tracks made by men. Sometimes in troubled times those tracks were redirected and the enemies sank in the peat and died.

    Because of this protective peat the high-german language wave didn't reach Ost-Friesland and they remained the old german language which is different than Frisian, which, as mentioned above is still spoken in Saterland.

    There is a close relationsship to danish. I can read newspapers in danish, though I don't understand every word the meaning of what is said is clear to me. The same is for nederlansk.

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    I'm partly Frisian, I have a few different family lines that go back to Frisia.
    However most Dutch people will have atleast some Frisian ancestry aswell as Frankish and Saxon, Frisian ancestry is quite common in the Dutch coastal areas specially the Holland provinces as they were founded by Frisians.

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    Freese from Denmark

    My great, great grandfather, Andrew Christian Freese, came over from Denmark, which is my Danish - Friesian connection; however, I could use a little help in researching my lineage from there. If you anyone out there has a suggestion, idea or knowledge about the next step I might take in researching my background and ethnicity I would appreciate it. Thank you.

    A Freese in Tulsa, OK.

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    Im from the Fryslân (Friesland) my ancestors as far as i can see come from the same part. A lot of people in (The Netherlands) have Frisian ancestry.
    Grinslân (Groningen) was a part of the frisian Upstalbaum alliance, and yes there is some rivalry between Fryslân en Grinslân. This because of the expansion of Grins and dominating Dutch peoples which moved to Grinslân.

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    My grandmother was from North Frisia, from the island of Sylt more exactly.
    She still has spoken the island dialect (Söl'ring),
    unfortunately, I know only a couple of words.

    Wikipedia article

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    The Frisian and the Saxon had a strong alliance against Charlemagne's Christianity mission.

    King Radbod of Frisia equally fought against Christianity and later Karl/ charles as Herzog Widukind of Sachsen.

    As the Sachsen elites were murdered by Karl after he gave an oath that nothing would happen to them if they come without weapons to a meeting, many Sachsen didn't want to become christians and moved up to Denmark.

    From there mostly exiled Sachsens started the Viking attacks on Franken. There was no attack on the Frisian lands until very late into the viking wars. It was mostly against Karls Franken and Angelsaxons and their christianity.

    Sachsen and Frisian are also very close in language and culture and most likely bloodline. According to legends Frisia was founded by three brothers, Friso, Saxo and Bruno. It seems Frisians and Saxons therefore have been brother tribes.
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    Also between the Danes and the Frisians there had been some close relationships. King Finn of Friesland had Danish warriors in his retinue (most likely King Finn had a Danish noble woman as a wife) Then there broke out a quarrel between the Frisian and Danes, in the End the leader of the Danes, Hengest, killed King Finn. Hengest then had to leave Frisian and went to Kent, to establish a Kingdom there.

    The Skaldskaparmal in Snorris Edda is most likely about this event.

    Also an episode in Beowulf is refering to this tragic event.

    It seems that the Saxon had a similar close relationship to the Danes, as Herzog Widukind had a danish wife (she is buried in a stonegrave in Lower Saxony). After the defeat through Charlemagne many Saxons moved up north to Denmark and later to Iceland were many legends and myth from Germany found their ways into the Edda.

    It might well be that the Danish, Frisians and Saxons were closely related.
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    The three tribes Frisian, Saxon and Angeln (Danes) invaded what is now known as England. the three tribes had already old alliances.

    The English language is closest to old Frisian, that suggests that English is an offspring of the frisian language and not from Saxon or Danish.

    So we also should find a lot of frisian people in England and also in the USA therefore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocko View Post
    The English language is closest to old Frisian, that suggests that English is an offspring of the frisian language and not from Saxon or Danish.
    That's hardly surprising as much of Frisia is even geographically closer to where they left from than the parts of Saxony are where records exist + even there records exist at a much later date. It was probably a dialect continuum of sorts, too.

    Of course that only applies to old Frisian and old English. Oh, and you forgot to mention the Jutes. Basically everything that came from that corner, which also explains how burial mounds ended up with the appellative barrow which is cognate to German Berg, which is particularly amusing for someone living with mountains to either side.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    The Angles were a tribe distinct from the Danes, who at the time lived on Sjćlland and in Scania. Only after the Angles and Jutes had almost completely abandoned Jutland for the British Isles did the Danes migrate westward to fill the space.

    It may be that the Angles were kindred of the Frisians, which could explain some of the linguistic similarity, but there are not really any Angles left, except in England, because more than any of the three tribal components, they moved out of the continent wholesale. Maybe the North Frisians are a remnant?
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