View Poll Results: Who here is Frisian or partly Frisian

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    Do people in Germany or people from Ost-Friesland themselves consider Ost-Friesland as Frisian as the Saterfrisian and the northern frisian regions? I was wondering this because linguistically Ost-Friesland is considered Saxon most of the times.

    I have no Frisian ancestry or family by the way. Although... there are theories that the earliest Franks were a bunch of ancient Frisians (and Chauki). They had not much in common with the later Frisians though.

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    A distant ancestor might have been a Frisian, it would explain the regular incidence of horse-faced individuals in my family. It is equally possible that said ancestor was Lipizzaner or Haflinger, though.

    Oh wait, wrong type of Frisian ... nope, no Frisian ancestry I know of. Westphalian ancestry yes, but no ancestor was a seaside dweller, not even plains dwellers actually. Mountainfolk and Hillside folk, we are, through and through.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
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    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    My ancestor Jan Evertsen was from Emden.

    Anyone know where this "Loockeren" is in Emden?

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    I am full frisian. and yes i do want a united frisia! (: frisia is north germanic not like the dutch in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordfrisk View Post
    I am full frisian. and yes i do want a united frisia! (: frisia is north germanic not like the dutch in my eyes.
    In what way is Frisia north Germanic? Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Icelandics and people from the Faeroer isles are north Germanic. Frisians however are not.

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    I am insignificantly Frisian; I have a single ancestor from Tönning (or Taning, as the people in question call it). While in Amsterdam, she married a man from Limburg and settled in the New Netherland colony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    In what way is Frisia north Germanic? Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Icelandics and people from the Faeroer isles are north Germanic. Frisians however are not.
    I mean culturally we are more related to the scandinavian then the dutchman. our language however is a lot older than dutch,, much similar to old english and in some links old icelandic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordfrisk View Post
    I mean culturally we are more related to the scandinavian then the dutchman. our language however is a lot older than dutch,, much similar to old english and in some links old icelandic
    Although I don't know that much about the Frisians, I actually doubt that the Frisians have more in common with scandinavians. Frisians in the Netherlands are part of the Dutch nation and they live closer to other Dutch people than to any of the scandinavian countries. They share a history with the rest of the Netherlands and not with scandinavia. How could it be that Frisian culture would be more related to scandinavian culture than to other dutch cultures? Ethnically, culturally and linguistically they are part of the Dutch-German continuum in my eyes.

    Frisian isn't older than Dutch by the way. Standardized Frisian is younger than standardized Dutch and when it comes to dialects you can't say that one of them is older, because languages and dialects constantly evolve. In the end both Dutch and Frisian descend from proto-germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    Although I don't know that much about the Frisians, I actually doubt that the Frisians have more in common with scandinavians. Frisians in the Netherlands are part of the Dutch nation and they live closer to other Dutch people than to any of the scandinavian countries. They share a history with the rest of the Netherlands and not with scandinavia. How could it be that Frisian culture would be more related to scandinavian culture than to other dutch cultures? Ethnically, culturally and linguistically they are part of the Dutch-German continuum in my eyes.
    that is where you are confused. many times dutch culture is the "commercial" culture of the netherlands much like how "bavaria" is the culture culture of germany with all the lederhosen, alps, and bier. however frisians live a lifestyle by the sea and have an entirely different cultural cuisine, dress, way of life, and an entirely different culture that unites us from the netherlands, to northern germany, to denmark... we share these identities. we are similar to the scandinavians because we have a common history seadwellers of whome both ruled the north sea at times and once frisian was one of the major languages of the trading system in the nordic countries. we were with the scandinavians the last to resist the tides of christianity and remain traditional germanic heathens and still to this day practice many of the old traditions. our culture is very unique.

    however yes we are placed sometimes on the dutch-german continuem or west germanic languages however our language is only that way because it has been a minority language in 3 different countries for centuries to the point that west east and north frisian is harder to understand amongst the mainstream original frisian language that was one of its own. i say frisian is old because it is a very slowly evolving language due to a lack of native speakers,, only maybe a million or less speak the frisian language and less and less are teaching it to there children,, soon to probably be extinct.

    Frisian isn't older than Dutch by the way. Standardized Frisian is younger than standardized Dutch and when it comes to dialects you can't say that one of them is older, because languages and dialects constantly evolve. In the end both Dutch and Frisian descend from proto-germanic.
    im pretty sure every germanic language comes from "proto-germanic" doesn't make it any the same. also i would like to campare the fact that frisians are more genetically similar to that of the scandinavians mostly due to a shared viking history shared trade ideals, customs. even surnames that sound very much of scandinavian origin are indeed very very common here is friesland such as Jansen, janssen, claassen, anderzen, knutzen, the whole -sen, -ssen from father naming process.

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    My father's line is Frisian (once noble farmers in the Wâlden area), my mother's line is more generally Dutch.

    I agree with Nordfrisk in that the Frisians have a strong historical connection with Norway and Danmark, as well as with England, because of the North Sea trade. I believe it is also true that linguistically there seems to be some minor Scandinavian influence in Old Frisian (it does have a certain Scandinavian ring to it, as I hear it) and conversely it has been argued that the Norse god Forseti may be of Frisian origin. Also, in Viking times Danes have ruled parts of Friesland. Saxo Grammaticus' Danish History and Beowulf's Finnsburg episode suggest that notable contacts existed several centuries before that.

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