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    On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    I already started various threads on that topic now, one of the latest - simple and concise is this:
    Comparison of Archemorphic (primitive), Paedomorphic (infantile) and Neomorphic (progressive) Types


    I tried to explain the reasons for this differences in various articles as well, but now I want to show the bigger picture and connect it to established basic rules of evolution - which I already did, but will do here again:

    Interesting is this thread about Lynn's theories too: Some comments on Lynn's thesis by an anthopologist

    And this thread about Veblen: Racialist Economist and Sociologist: Thorstein Veblen

    As are various threads about Rushton.

    What is active and what is passive adaptation - its a different way of responding to demands in a specific context, Lynn already spoke about it, but its very important so I will go into detail:

    Evolution is a theory of life

    Life: an autonomous agent, "a self-reproducing system able to perform at least one thermodynamic work cycle" (S. A. Kauffman, 2000, Investigations; Oxford University Press, New York). The system thus self-reproduces as a collective enterprise of interacting molecules, and carries out work on its own behalf through metabolism in a cycle in which chemical reactions that require energy are coupled with reactions that produce energy. "Life is an expected, emergent property of complex chemical reaction networks" (Kauffman, 2000).

    Characteristics of life (but not unique to life): metabolism, replication, growth, interaction, activity, competition, cooperation, feedback, adaptation, evolution.
    Adaptation

    Adaptation: a feature or attribute that confers a survival or reproductive advantage to its bearer; also the process resulting in this benefit.

    Criteria for recognition of adaptation in living and fossil organisms: trait must be heritable (through genes, culture, imitation). There must be identifiable agency that links possession of trait with a bearer's performance in survival or reproduction; attribute must be demonstrated to have the function that confers the benefit.

    Adaptation as hypothesis: adaptations are testable hypotheses of a bearer's environment. There is thus a close parallel between adaptation and the scientific method.
    and

    Characteristics and realm of adaptations

    Adaptations must work, whether or not they are truthful hypotheses.

    Adaptation is a universal condition in all parts of an economic system, thus including all life forms and their parts.

    This is so because all living things compete for locally limiting resources; and all living things are the products of unbroken lines of descent that extend back to the origin of life, meaning that successive members of these lines have faced all kinds of challenges and opportunities successfully.

    Adaptation is to current conditions; insofar as these conditions remain similar, adaptation provides an adequate hypothesis of the future.

    Adaptations are often of a very general nature, applicable under a rather wide variety of circumstances.

    There are two broad classes of adaptation: passive and active, or resistance and response.

    Adaptations are never perfect; there are tradeoffs, incompatibilities, insufficient information; and limitations imposed by structural, chemical, and biological factors (see below).
    Measuring adaptation

    Energy (or work): a means of exchange, a measure by which resources are quantified; formally equivalent to money.
    Power: energy per unit time; measures performance (fitness, productivity, profit, influence).
    Efficiency and effectiveness: efficiency (energy output vs. energy input) is desirable for living things that gain less (or lose more) during competition than winners; effectiveness (or performance) is not the same thing as efficiency.
    Passive and active adaptation: passive adaptations (toxicity, armor, large size) effective when available power is low; active adaptations (speed, aggression, venom) made possible by, and confer, greater power.
    Types of selection

    Stabilizing selection: maintaining the status quo.
    Directional selection: selection resulting in directional change.
    Sexual selection: selection resulting from mate choice.
    Selection at different levels in the genetic hierarchy.

    Limits and constraints to adaptation

    Insufficient variation: without variation there is no selection.
    Too much variation: the result is chaos.
    Constructional, biomechanical, developmental constraints: some adaptive pathways more easily followed than others; an already successful pattern of development is difficult to change because most changes are damaging, hence novel characters are often added or deleted but not inserted; many evolutionary changes involve subtle changes in timing of events in development.
    Ecological constraints: the tradeoff principle; insufficient material or energy resources, or resources supplied unpredictably; enemies constrain what can be achieved adaptively by victims.
    The role of enemies in evolution: escalation and the top-down view

    Escalation: enemies affect the characteristics, distribution, and behavior of victims; enemies are ubiquitous, and adaptation to enemies is rarely perfect, so improvement is almost always possible in principle.
    Types of enemies: predators, parasites, members of the same species, others who exploit or interfere with the same resources.
    Resources over which living things compete: soil minerals, food, water, light, shelters, status, mates; humans and human groups also compete for market share, fuel, and many other conditions and commodities.
    Enemies tend to control the directions of evolution because they have greater per-capita or collective power than their victims.
    Coevolution: reciprocal evolution; this occurs, is usually a special case of escalation, most involves highly specialized relationships such as those between some specialized parasites and their unique hosts.
    Opportunity: a bottom-up view of evolution

    Opportunity: conditions enabling populations to grow and expand, implying surplus of production to sustain consumers.

    Components of opportunity: increasing temperatures (making many phenotypes feasible that would be unattainable in the cold); increasing rate of supply and predictability of supply of food, raw materials, energy.

    The role of extrinsic triggers: extinctions, tectonic events, warmer climates, spread of warm conditions, rising sea levels all provide good conditions for evolutionary innovation and increased diversity of life.

    The evolution of regulation: top-down and bottom-up views combined. Consumers often stabilize, increase, and make more reliable rates of resource supply, and control directions of evolution.

    The role of incumbency: incumbents prevent many adaptive pathways from being taken, but their removal does not automatically enable survivors to replace those incumbents.

    The role of competition: competition is a necessary condition for the evolution of performance-enhancing novelties.

    Examples of minor and major innovation: multicellular organization, social organization, eukaryotic cell, photosynthesis, biomineralization, leaves, internal fertilization, plant-animal partnerships, transitions from sea to land and vice versa, endothermy, bipedal locomotion, flight, labral teeth in snails, pollination by animals, immune systems, brains, vision.
    http://www.geology.ucdavis.edu/~gel4/

    If looking at human features:
    While pigmentation is purely a passive adaptation to environmental demands, intelligence has a more general utility which may aid survival in a wide diversity of environmental conditions, and even enable the organism to respond to rapid changes in the environment -- something that passive adaption may actually hamper rather than facilitate.
    Some comments on Lynn's thesis by an anthopologist


    My comment:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showpost.php...1&postcount=10


    That's exactly the difference between adaptation I usually name progressive or just regional. Progressive features are under a much greater number of circumstances advantageous, not necessarily always though, whereas pure regional or niche adaptation is just for a certain time and context positive - might be even one sided and lead to overspecialisation and extinction on the long run.

    The base for progressive developments (investment in the general performance level of individuals) is usually in those regions, which were first influenced by the Ice Age, and by constant weather change (seasons) secondly. Especially the changing conditions, high demands, but at the same time sufficient nutritional base was the road to success. Practically all progressive types came up or at least had roots, lived for a longer time, in a dry, temperate, or moderately cold environment.

    I tried to point to some of the spots and main racial types of progressive development in this map:




    Red circles: Progressive Europid secondary centres (were respective subtypes or important progressive populations might have their centres and are still strong).

    Yellow circles: Progressive Mongoloid (including Indianid) secondary centres.

    Blue circles: Borealised, cold specialised but otherwise rather progressive forms of Eurasians.

    Blue line: Border of the area in which higher percentages of relatively progressive individuals naturally exist(ed).

    Thin green line: Primary areas for borealisation after and partly during the last Ice Age.

    Light Green (Andid) and Ethiopian circle, semi-progressive to progressive group centres.

    Dark Green circles: Centres of infantilisation and reduction in the tropical forests and in groups living in unfavourable conditions.

    Pink: Centres of primitive characteristics, similar to the oldest sapiens stratum - if combined with dark green both is visible, archemorphic and paedomorphic characteristics.

    Infantilisation-Reduction is a passive way of dealing with pressure, one sided saving, whereas progressive tendencies are the active response to it, to finally "deal with the problem" from a higher level.


    Examples for passive and active biological and cultural adaptations:

    Problem:
    Too cold - loss of energy and heat

    Response:
    * passive - more subcutaneous fat, shorter extremities, longer-broader trunk, saving of energy, moving less, overall reduction in size.
    * active - getting bigger, more muscles, bigger brain, more intelligent, better protection-clothing, better social interactions in the group, group strategies, successful hunting and intelligent use of other sources = more energy available.


    Problem: Too much UV-rays, danger of skin cell damage and probably problematic for fol-acid production in pregnant women.

    Response:
    * passive - increased melanin production, stronger pigmentation.
    * active - use of artificial protection, clothing, pastes etc.


    Problem: Pressure from other groups:

    Response:
    * passive - At best defensive, trying to stay in strongholds. Finally retreating into unfavourable areas or total subordination.
    * active - developing a counter strategy, learning from the enemy, using the own strengths, finally switching over to counterattacks.


    The progressive line is the line of the generalist actively adapting Hominisation, whereas infantilisation is the passive way out of unfavourable conditions, which lead to even more downgrading of the subject.

    Unfortunately, if comparing the situation both inside and between world groups, the progressive elements are being reduced, are being used by the current Liberalcapitalistic system, their abilities and will, for short term oriented profits whereas the less evolved or aberrating groups are increasing both inside groups and worldwide.

    That's especially obvious if comparing the map from above with the regional population growth.
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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa


    Red circles: Progressive Europid secondary centres (were respective subtypes or important progressive populations might have their centres and are still strong).
    Yellow circles: Progressive Mongoloid (including Indianid) secondary centres.
    Blue circles: Borealised, cold specialised but otherwise rather progressive forms of Eurasians.
    Blue line: Border of the area in which higher percentages of relatively progressive individuals naturally exist(ed).
    Thin green line: Primary areas for borealisation after and partly during the last Ice Age.
    Light Green (Andid) and Ethiopian circle, semi-progressive to progressive group centres.
    Dark Green circles: Centres of infantilisation and reduction in the tropical forests and in groups living in unfavourable conditions.
    Pink: Centres of primitive characteristics, similar to the oldest sapiens stratum - if combined with dark green both is visible, archemorphic and paedomorphic characteristics.
    Compare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Unfortunately, if comparing the situation both inside and between world groups, the progressive elements are being reduced, are being used by the current Liberalcapitalistic system, their abilities and will, for short term oriented profits whereas the less evolved or aberrating groups are increasing both inside groups and worldwide.
    Thats especially obvious if comparing the map from above with the regional population growth.

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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation



    This one shows better how large the contrast is.

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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    Obviously the regions worse for human development were and are partly less favourable for cultural and economic, especially modern development, though thats a generalisation.
    Important post on that:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=43726

    Obviously we see in this "double retarded" areas with a less socially disciplined culture as well, beside the biological and general economic-cultural retardation the highest birth rates. They are least infected by Liberalcapitalism since they mostly lack the structures necessary for getting fully indoctrinated and re-educated by it. For that are some basic, higher structures and levels necessary.

    Another map which shows it too:
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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    Red circles: Progressive Europid secondary centres (were respective subtypes or important progressive populations might have their centres and are still strong).
    Yellow circles: Progressive Mongoloid (including Indianid) secondary centres.
    Blue circles: Borealised, cold specialised but otherwise rather progressive forms of Eurasians.
    Blue line: Border of the area in which higher percentages of relatively progressive individuals naturally exist(ed).
    Thin green line: Primary areas for borealisation after and partly during the last Ice Age.
    Light Green (Andid) and Ethiopian circle, semi-progressive to progressive group centres.
    Dark Green circles: Centres of infantilisation and reduction in the tropical forests and in groups living in unfavourable conditions.
    Pink: Centres of primitive characteristics, similar to the oldest sapiens stratum - if combined with dark green both is visible, archemorphic and paedomorphic characteristics.

    Infantilisation-Reduction is a passive way of dealing with pressure, one sided saving, whereas progressive tendencies are the active response to it, to finally "deal with the problem" from a higher level.

    Examples for passive and active biological and cultural adaptations:
    Problem:
    Too cold - loss of energy and heat

    .
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    Another point of view :

    Red circles + Yellow circles: First are Caucasoids in general: Europid cromagnid descendents altered by neolithic expansion ( in it´s two fases : pre-historical agricultural expansion and IE - expansion ) and Neolithic descendents properly (Semite / Near-easterns ), and Berbers. Yellow circles: agricultural expansion in Asia : ( Elamite / Dravidians - second Indian population strata after Veddoid ) and mongoloids altered by caucasoid admixture.

    Blue circles:'' Borealised, cold specialised but otherwise rather progressive forms of Eurasians.'' : first circle are probaly Uralic + Caucasoid ..and the second ? ( mongolians ???)


    Ethiopian circle : admixture between Neolithic agriculturalists and Negroid types.Coon had especulated that the Negroid type was formed by the admixture between pygmes and caucasoids in prehistorical times.

    Dark Green circles + Pink : Negroids , Veddoids/Australoids and paleoindians (fueguinos ): primitive characteristics related to first and second waves of human migrations out of Africa - similar to the oldest sapiens stratum as you said.








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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    First thanks for the comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Euclides
    Another point of view :
    Red circles + Yellow circles: First are Caucasoids in general: Europid cromagnid descendents altered by neolithic expansion
    Yes, its important to note that already before the Neolithic expansion, in the Mesolithicum, progressive tendencies dominated in Europe.

    Yellow circles: agricultural expansion in Asia : ( Elamite / Dravidians - second Indian population strata after Veddoid ) and mongoloids altered by caucasoid admixture.
    Yellow circles are Mongolids, to make it clear:
    Nordsinid, Mittelsinid and Yakonid (Japanese-Korean progressive variants).

    Blue circles:'' Borealised, cold specialised but otherwise rather progressive forms of Eurasians.'' : first circle are probaly Uralic + Caucasoid ..and the second ? ( mongolians ???)
    Meant groups:
    Pronounced borealised Europids (f.e. Baltid) without infantilisation and not too extreme Tungids (Mongolians f.e.).

    Ethiopian circle : admixture between Neolithic agriculturalists and Negroid types.Coon had especulated that the Negroid type was formed by the admixture between pygmes and caucasoids in prehistorical times.
    I just want to add that inside the Negroid spectrum there is a range from more progressive, less primitive and Europid influenced Aethiopids--(beginning of typical Negrid) Nilotid-Sudanid-Kafrid-Palaenegrid--(ending of typical Negrid) to Bambutid = primitive+infantile type.

    That "the highway of culture and life" of Eurasia was central for progressive developments is pretty obvious to me. For reasons I mentioned above and because of more intraspecific (more group oriented) selective pressure.
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    Re: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    A direct approach that puts neighbouring types into a more relative light: I highlighted the currently dominating sides.

    Lappid vs. Nordid.

    Alpinid vs. Nordid.

    East-Alpinid vs. East-Nordid.

    Mongolid vs. East-Nordid Tocharians and Iranids/Pamirids.

    Eastbaltid vs. Dinarid/Pontid.

    Berid vs. Gracilmediterranid.

    Syrid vs. East-Mediterranid.

    Gracilmediterranid vs. Proto-Nordid, Baskid, East-Cromagnid etc.

    Veddid vs. Indid.

    Malayid vs. Sinid.

    Satsuma vs. Jakonid. (?)

    Palaungid vs. Shanid.

    Fuegid vs. Amerindid.

    Paleonegrid vs. Sudanid.

    Pygmid vs. Kafrid.

    Sanid vs. Khoid.
    etc.

    Could be continued with populations, f.e. Russians vs. Finns, Romans vs. Kelts, Tutsis vs. Hutus or Europeans vs. Australians.

    It would be interesting to know in which particular phase infantilized Zentralids appeared. The very first high cultures of the region might have still been influenced by on older type.

    I also wonder why Vietnamese Palaungids were able to win a war against American Nordids.

    Mentioning fertility rate is interesting: As you might know Emmanuel Todd has his theory that a high rate leads to instable societies with various further elaborations. On the other hand, societies with a low birth rate should result in more civilness.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/023113102X

    About 30 years ago he used declining birth rates in the Soviet Union to predict its downfall.
    Meant groups:
    Pronounced borealised Europids (f.e. Baltid) without infantilisation and not too extreme Tungids (Mongolians f.e.).
    Depends on subtype. Lundman had two types of Baltids:

    East Baltic * r a c e* (also called the Finnish race) have at least two types:
    a) the tavast type, under average Swedish height (approx. 170 cm.) squat, particularly broad- shouldered and heavy with short legs and medium long arms. Short head (BLI approx. 82-83) and high (HLI approx. 76) with flat neck, besides big, broad and rugged (F I approx. 85). Big square somewhat flat face with steep profile, high broad forehead and broad forehead and broad slant and coarse very little prominent chin. One the lower part broad but often pointy upturned nose. The hair grey-yellow but fairly rough and eyes grey pale, lusterless, eye opening narrow, but not oblique. The eyebrows thin and the beard growth weak. Thick, grey-yellowish skin, weakly developed ear lobe. Distribution: W. Finland, W. Estonia and more uncommon westwards Elbe.




    b) the Savolax type. 2 Fairly short (approx. 166 cm.), the head weakly short headed (BLI approx. 81-82) but the more high (HLI approx. 77) (F I 80-85); the face broad but not big; the nose short and broad, less pointy than the former. Mostly blond, although the hair well often pass in somewhat darker ash grey hair than the previous type. Distribution: east of previous towards the interior of Russia, and southwards the Carpathians.



    Thanks to Glenlivet for the translation from Swedish.
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    AW: On "Progressiveness" - Active and Passive Adaptation

    Interesting post I did have overlooked.

    A direct approach that puts neighbouring types into a more relative light: I highlighted the currently dominating sides
    This is for some forms true for thousands of years already, for others just some hundred years and in a much milder form.
    Finally there is the difference of dominating a space or social system and being just dominating by reproductive success in a very specific context.

    D = real dominance, R = just higher reproductive success in a very specific context.

    Lappid vs. Nordid. D and R

    Alpinid vs. Nordid. Only R, D vice versa.

    East-Alpinid vs. East-Nordid. Only R, D vice versa.

    Mongolid vs. East-Nordid Tocharians and Iranids/Pamirids. No clear pattern on the long run nor currently.

    Eastbaltid vs. Dinarid/Pontid. D and R

    Berid vs. Gracilmediterranid. D and R

    Syrid vs. East-Mediterranid. Only D

    Gracilmediterranid vs. Proto-Nordid, Baskid, East-Cromagnid etc. Only slight R, D vice versa

    Veddid vs. Indid. D and R

    Malayid vs. Sinid. D and R

    Satsuma vs. Jakonid. (?) No strong R and D vice versa

    Palaungid vs. Shanid. Only R, D vice versa

    Fuegid vs. Amerindid. You mean more progressive Indianids - Fuegids being Indianid themselves too, but right R and D.

    Paleonegrid vs. Sudanid. Only D

    Pygmid vs. Kafrid. Its rather Palaenegrid vs. Bambutid/Pygmid, because Kafrids have just a few shared habitats with Bambutids, but Palaenegrid is dominant over Bambutid = D and R

    Sanid vs. Khoid. D and R
    etc.

    It would be interesting to know in which particular phase infantilized Zentralids appeared. The very first high cultures of the region might have still been influenced by on older type.
    I guess that the strong infantilisation visible in some Maya groups being the result of the over-use, abuse of natural ressources, the carrying capacity. This together with wars led to a long period of hunger and deprivation which result were a more primitive and less hierarchic society again with more reduced-infantilised survivors of the catastrophy.

    I also wonder why Vietnamese Palaungids were able to win a war against American Nordids.
    Well, to say it in a half serious way, if you bait 100 dwarfs for killing a strong giant, they can do it too.
    They didnt really won in open battles too often, they didnt won by numbers and most important: It was a modern war being led with very modern weaponry and tactics, with many psychological moments being involved as well. It was not the same as Europids conquering Weddoid areas with fanatism and strong population pressure, settling structure in the background. Just Western boys fighting a modern war against people defending their homelands and beliefs.

    Furthermore its wrong to describe the Vietnamese as being just Palaungid, they have strong Suedsinid and Shanid strains too, with the first having formed a local variety which is more leptomorphic and refined, which dominated the old upper class. Example from v. Eickstedts Rassendynamik von Ostasien:
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    Check List for Human Progressiveness

    These traits I consider progressive because they are farthest removed from the ape form and are found among humans. These are only the more obvious ones. There certainly are others.

    Progressive / Archaic
    Fine hair / Course hair
    Weak brow ridge / Strong brow ridge
    High steep forehead / Low or strongly receeding forehead
    Small eyes / Big eyes
    Big ears / Small ears
    High rooted, high bridged, long thin nose / Low rooted, low bridge, short wide nose
    Compressed zygomatic arches / Large prominent cheek bones
    Compressed gonial angles / Square jaw
    Small teeth / Large teeth
    Strong prominent chin / Weak receeding chin
    Long neck / Short neck
    Short torso / Long torso
    Short arms / Long arms
    Wide, short pelvis / Long narrow pelvis
    Long straight legs / Short legs
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    Re: Check List for Human Progressiveness

    Quote Originally Posted by tinman View Post
    These traits I consider progressive because they are farthest removed from the ape form and are found among humans. These are only the more obvious ones. There certainly are others.

    Progressive / Archaic
    Fine hair / Course hair
    Weak brow ridge / Strong brow ridge
    High steep forehead / Low or strongly receeding forehead
    Small eyes / Big eyes
    Big ears / Small ears
    High rooted, high bridged, long thin nose / Low rooted, low bridge, short wide nose
    Compressed zygomatic arches / Large prominent cheek bones
    Compressed gonial angles / Square jaw
    Small teeth / Large teeth
    Strong prominent chin / Weak receeding chin
    Long neck / Short neck
    Short torso / Long torso
    Short arms / Long arms
    Wide, short pelvis / Long narrow pelvis
    Long straight legs / Short legs
    are these all your traits?
    every year is getting shorter, never seen to find the time,
    plans that either come to nought, or half a page of scribble lines,
    hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way;
    the time has come, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say.

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