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    Scots have Celtic feet

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    British feet - podiatrist/archaeologist Phyllis Jackson distinguishes Saxon feet from Celtic feet - Brief Article

    The Germanic tribes of Angles and Saxons who invaded Britain in the fifth and sixth centuries A.D. left a significant legacy. Their language evolved into modern English, largely replacing indigenous Celtic tongues. Some of their laws formed the basis of English common law. And their feet, it the basis of modern Englishmen.

    Or so says Phyllis Jackson, a retired Gloucestershire podiatrist. Jackson got her first inkling of a distinctively Saxon foot during World War II, when Hereford, the small city in western England where she then lived, was flooded with refugees from more significant cities (which were being bombed by latter-day Germans). Some of these evacuees became Jackson's patients, and some o them turned out to be of Celtic descent - Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and Cornish. "Poor things were coming to me with awful bunions," recalls Jackson. "I realized that the foot shape I was dealing with was quite different from the English one I was accustomed to."

    Traditional English feet, Jackson says, tend to be broad and somewhat pointed - the toes form a steep angle from the first to the fifth. The Celtic evacuees, in contrast, had toe tips that were almost level with one another, and their feet tended to be longer and slimmer - except for a bulge at the base of the big toe, where bunions form. The English shoe being modeled on the English foot, many of Jackson's new patients "couldn't cram their feet into that shape of shoe." Hence they developed the bunions.

    After retiring from podiatry, Jackson took up amateur archeology but kept her focus on feet. Examining the skeletal remains of a few dozen Saxons and Celts from a sixth-century cemetery in Lechlade, Gloucestershire, she found she could readily tell them apart. It wasn't just that the Saxons were the ones buried with bronze brooches and amber necklaces - they also had feet shaped like modem English feet. Jackson also found a distinctive feature in the cuboid bone, just beneath the fourth and fifth toes: it was slightly scrunched on one side in Saxon feet, but more square in Celts.

    Aside from stimulating people of British descent to take a closer look at their extremities, Jackson's research - which has not been subjected to formal peer review - may help British archeologists. They have traditionally relied on burial artifacts to distinguish Celtic from Saxon skeletons, thus glossing over the likelihood that some Celts adopted Saxon ways. "What she is offering is a possibility of being able to sort out the immigrant from the indigenous population," says archeologist Barry Cunliffe of Oxford. "She needs a bigger sample, but she's spotted differences that are very real and very well worth following up."

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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    Yes, data from all over Europe would be good too. Maybe she's on to something there, who knows?

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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    UP feet are wide, Med feet are long and narrow. That much I know to be true. I'd like to see examples of feet and the faces they belong to.
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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    I know from my own observations that Negroes have long, narrow feet and hands.





    Long narrow feet:



    This woman looks to have a long hand. Large teeth and heavy brow ridge as well. Quite archaic looking.



    I'd say this one's hand is short and wide. Difficult to say from the angle.


    This one's is short and wide:


    Long and narrow hand:


    Wide short hand:



    Short wide hands:


    Blond in pink has a long narrow hand:


    Both of these women have both short wide hands and feet.


    Long narrow feet:


    Long narrow feet:


    Asian feet look to be short and wide:


    This guy's foot is short and wide:


    Long & narrow:


    Hands and feet are short and wide:


    Short and wide:


    Short and wide:


    Short and wide:



    I think that's enough. Any conclusions?
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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    I think racially it follows this pattern:

    Brunns have long and wide feet/ heavy calves.
    Borrebies medium lenth and wide feet/ very heavy calves.
    nordics/atlantids have long and narrow feet/ light to medium calves.
    meds have short and narrown feet/ light calves.
    alpines have short and wide feet/ very heavy calves.

    as for the hands it follows the same pattern. Men also have wider feet and hands when compared to women.

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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinman
    I know from my own observations that Negroes have long, narrow feet and hands.
    Your Negroes are actually Mulattoes. Not good sample.
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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    These Indic women have long hands:






    I can't say the same about men though. This looks to be a short wide hand:










    This guy's foot looks to be narrow:
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    Re: Scots have Celtic feet

    I find this thread to be unscientific and bizarre. I'm about 6 foot tall . My shoe size is about 10 1/2 D US or 11D US (depending on the manufacturer of the shoe) Thin feet are around A(x) and extra wide feet are E(x). D is not thin nor is it exceedingly wide -- it's standard or normal. What about people with normal standard feet ? This whole thread just totally didn't even take into consideration people with "normal feet". Really quite queer the whole thing. A = narrow D = medium E = wide


    Some manufacturers offer shoes of different width for the same foot length. Such shoes are then also labelled according to the width or girth of the widest part of the foot (typically measured directly behind the toes with the subject standing on both feet and wearing socks or hose). In the Mondopoint system, the shoe size label can state in addition to the length also the width of the mean foot for which the shoe is suitable, both measured in millimetres. A number of other ad-hoc notations for width or girth are also used. Examples include (each starting with the narrowest width): * AAAA, AAA, AA, A, B, C, D, E, EE, EEE, EEEE * 4A, 3A, 2A, A, B, C, D, E, 2E, 3E, 4E * N, M, W None of these designations are formally standardized. The exact foot width for which these sizes are suitable can vary significantly between manufacturers. The A-E width indicators used by some US and UK shoe manufacturers are typically based on the width of the foot, and common step sizes are 1/4 inch (6 mm) or 3/16 inch (5 mm). [edit] Myths The myth that a man's foot size is correlated to the size of his penis has been discredited in anthropometric studies [1]. It is a myth that the foot (as a unit of length) (304.8 mm) is about the length of the average European male foot. The average today is less than 270 mm and 90% of the population is within 20 mm of that. So very few men today have feet that are a foot long. Most are over 25 mm (1 in) shorter. In the past, the average length would have been less. If the unit of measurement were named the 'shoe' it might be more appropriate. The topic of this article and the conversion chart above show that shoe size varies quite a lot between individuals. Even within an individual, the length of footwear varies depending on the purpose (house slippers, walking boots). However, some people do have shoes that are about 305 mm long.
    Last edited by NewYorker; Monday, December 26th, 2005 at 09:17 AM.
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