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    I Halpotype and J Halpotype Same Age

    I Haplotype and J Haplotype same age.

    I've been studying McDonalds Y Chromosone Maps and have noticed that the I Hapltoype group is as old, if not older, than the J Haplotype group - the Semitic and yes, Jewish one.

    This smashes the Jewish lies that we all came from the Middle East like they did.

    I Haplotype is the main group of Iceland Norway and very high in Scotland, Ireland, Sweden, Denmark.

    It could prove that the I Haplotype people were the first to evolve in Northwestern Europe and remain so, possibly.

    Look at these charts of McDonald. These are 2005 charts.

    See attachments. Sorry about the delay. Here they are.
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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    Quote Originally Posted by Halpotype I
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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    He could have at least spelt his username correctly

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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    Quote Originally Posted by Halpotype I
    This smashes the Jewish lies that we all came from the Middle East like they did.
    I've never heard this claim before. Or are you referring to the Neolithic invasion?

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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    From what I know I was not considered being Neolithic. And even Neolithic markers are not the same as "Semitic" for various reasons.

    I recommend this thread:
    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=43791

    R1a, R1b and I are the main haplotypes of Europeans.

    There are many interesting sites around, f.e. this one with some simplified explanations:
    http://freepages.history.rootsweb.co...aplogroups.htm
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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    I've never heard this claim before. Or are you referring to the Neolithic invasion?
    I finally got the image files up. I was not being technical or specific with regard to the use of the Jewish word.

    I am not an expert at this, I was just noticing the 2005 McDonald tables and was thinking. The J Haplotype is the bright Green in the McDonald tables and he listed it as "Arab" which if we look at the geography can very well be some or much of the Semitc Jewish blood lines.

    I'm looking forward to going into more detail on this.

    What do the more knowledgable people here make of the McDonald chart with the Branches. I read them as time and age related functions.
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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    Quote Originally Posted by Siegfried
    I've never heard this claim before. Or are you referring to the Neolithic invasion?
    I thought he was referring to the Christian belief that we all came from Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden which is believed by some to have been located in the fertile crescent.

    http://www.ldolphin.org/eden/

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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    Not all people in Haplotype J are Jewish and not all in Haplotype J are Arabs. There appears to be some trouble understanding the age of these Haplotypes. J existed before these people were called Jews or Arabs. Ever heard of the Greeks, Romans, Etruscans and other ancient Mediterrannean people? Haplotypes migrated in various times and directions, settling in various regions. Also remember there are J, J1, J2, J2e, J2f, etc. Subclades of the Haplotypes.

    There are R1b and R1a Jews. Ethnicity and faith cannot be connected to one's Haplotype. You are who and what you are due to connections with more recent history, not something that happened thousands of years ago.

    For people out there that feel the need to eliminate their own "non-European" genes (which exist in only about 99.9% of Europeans at some point), enterprising space aliens are working on a device that will do just that. However, one of the side effects on the apes experimented with was that it caused them to cease to exist; so it is not yet ready for humans.

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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    I is closely related to J. The predecessor to I came from the middle east.

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    Re: I Halpotype and J Halpotype same age

    I is closely related to J with is closely related to E3b which can be closely related to R1b. It is all extremely complicated and really has no bearing on countries or cultures.

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