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    Post Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Dr. J. Douglas McDonald's maps of "Y Haplogroups of the World," "Y Haplogroups of Europe," and "mtDNA Haplogroups of the World."
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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Dr. J. Douglas McDonald's maps of "Y Haplogroups of the World" devised some maps.

    I cross correlated them and came to this analysis.

    According to McDonald, it appears R1a and R1b are recent (which is also good) advancements in the human European condition.

    However, it is very interesting to note that the I group apparently pre-date R1a and R1b significantly.

    What I do find interesting from studying his maps is that the Semtic (Jew) J marker is of the same age as the I (predominantly Iceland, Nordic, etc).
    Which directly points to Humans living in Iceland and Sweden at the same time the Semites were in the deserts.

    This also correlates with the new archealogical discoveries in Europe which pre-date the Sumerian-Semitic cultures.

    So things are coming together in recent years proving European civilization began in the North at atleast the same time, most likely earlier, than any other civilization on earth.

    Study McDonalds maps and diagrams.

    Haplotype I is an old branch of Y Chromosone Haplotype.

    It's the Fourth Branch out of Seven Branches of which the R1a and R1b are the most recent and common European genes.

    I group is as old, same branch, as the J group. The J group is one of the Semitic groups.

    Branches - numbers define age groups - derivation.

    1.
    A- African

    2.
    B - African
    C - Asian
    D - Southeast Asian
    E - Southwest African
    E3b - Northwest African

    3.
    F - Indian- Semitic
    G - Aryan-Iranian-Lower Caucuses-Armenian
    H - Indian and Tamil SubConstient almost exclusively
    I - Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, England - tiny bits in Persia
    J - Middle East Arabs almost exclusevely - Eastern Med some.
    K - Black Sea, Italy, Estonia sea port. very rare.

    4.
    L - India and Sri Lanka exclusive.
    M - Indonesia - Mayalsia
    N - Finland vast majority. Spreads out to Estonia and Russia yes.
    O - SouthEast Asia exclusively


    5.
    P - North American Native Indian
    Q - America's Native Indians.
    R - Sri Lanka, some Indian, Tibetan.

    6.
    R1a - Eastern Europe
    R1b - Western Europe

    Stage 6. is most advanced, modern genes, European of course.

    Conclusion: The largest amount of old genes in Ireland, Sweden, Scotland, Britain, Norway is the I Haplotype of the Y Chromosone male gene.
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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Does anybody notice that Iceland has A Haplotype?

    Iceland has more of the ancient African A Haplotype than any of the surrounding genetic nations.

    Iceland also has more of the very old I Haplotype than any other ethnic group.

    What does this possibly mean?

    Well it could mean that the I Haplotype evolved from the A Hapoltype in Iceland area. This is a Key to determining if the I Haplotype came from Asia or from Iceland.

    Revolutionary evidence to prove we (unlike what the Jews have been yelling at us for 2,000 years) did not come from an eastern migration, but a northwestern migration.

    McDonald dated his Y Chromosone DNA Haplotypes from before the 1500's.





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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Quote Originally Posted by Haplotype I
    Does anybody notice that Iceland has A Haplotype?

    Iceland has more of the ancient African A Haplotype than any of the surrounding genetic nations.
    The map I was looking at showed Iceland to be I, R1a, R1b with a small amount of Q. Q Haplogroup also shows up in Norway, the Faeroe Island , Shetlands & Orkneys. Some geneticists believe the Q Haplogroup was introduced into Northwestern Europe by way of the North Central Siberian Coast, but you have to wonder if it might be from Greenlandic Eskimos.

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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Thank You! What a relief.

    It stands to logic as well as it being Q it would substantiate Europeans travelling along the edge of the ice cap across Iceland to North America in 15,000 BC, which lends credence to Whites settling America and Canada in the Eastern portions before the Asian-type Indians did.

    Very good.

    I was thinking about why I percieved the purple pie slice color as the more blue A (according to McDonalds color coding on his study) was because the red color of the R1a Y-chromosone Haplotype was right next to it which changed my color perception of that small Q Y-Chromosone Haplotype, adding more blue in my visual perception, which made me match it with the A. So I now understand how I made that error between McDonald's A and Q color coding and genetic maps.

    A White Community helps eachother out. Thank you for speaking up and correcting me.

    That is indeed a Q Haplotype in Iceland not an A Haplotype.
    Last edited by Haplotype I; Thursday, December 8th, 2005 at 05:18 AM.





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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Remember, there are peoples of J Haplotype who are not Jewish and they are just as German as anyone. Many Jews are as well having been participants of the development of our wonderful nations.

    All Europeans without exception have ancestors who lived in the Middle East within the last 12,000 years. Being a mix of Paleolithic ice age survivors and Neolithic agriculturalists who immigrated from the Middle East around 10,000 BC. Our heredity is about 80% ice age survivor and 20% agriculturalist. Divisions of "white" and "non-white" in Eurasia is political, not genetic.

    Both components of our 80/20 mix are responsible for the development of Europe's culture and advances. Give credit where it is due.

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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    I think Haplotype Q is old Norse.

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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Q is arctic, and related to East Asian haplogroups.

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    Re: Maps of Y & mtDNA Haplogroups of Europe and the World

    Quote Originally Posted by Haplotype I
    I - Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, England - tiny bits in Persia
    The Haplotype I is only majoritary in Sweden and Norway. Iceland, Denmark and England are majoritary Western European (R1b).

    Tiny bits in Persia? Tiny bits are found (and not so tiny in many cases) are found all over Europe and in some regions of the Indian sub-continent.

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