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    Look at the shape of his eyes and read the quote below by Coon on the Long Barrow skulls.

    "The face is of medium length and of moderate width; the orbits are of medium dimensions, and in many instances slope downward and outward, as if the confines of the face were too narrow for them."

    http://www.snpa.skadi.net/chapter-IV10.htm

    I think Coon was on to something there.

    Gareth knows that I have described this trait before among Nord-Atlantids, but I probably really meant Atlanto-Mediterranids and how they may in that sense have similar eye shape.

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    Post Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    He is Atlantomediterranid-Atlantid, thats for sure, but something goes in a rather Nordid direction in his face, a typical Atlantomediterranid would look slightly different in my opinion, though he is pred. Atlantomediterranid.
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    Post Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    I am not sure such eyes are unique in Atlanto-Mediterranids but they are quite common among them. I observed it in the Merseyside region. Nordids have sometimes been described having the same eye shape. I wonder if it goes back to the same origin. Lundman (1988) also wrote on narrow eye aperture among a population along the Rhine, who might be predominantly but an Atlanto-Mediterranid element is also found there (I do not remember now if am getting the last statement from VV Bunak or Henry Field).

    "The bony orbit of the eye is rather high, and the eye normally quite wide open, with the upper lid reaching down over the upper quadrant of the iris, and the lower lid touching its rim. The eye slits themselves are horizontal, and are often partially covered, especially in old age, by a fold which hangs from the outer corner of the upper orbit."

    http://www.cograce.org/literature/ra...hapter-IX4.htm

    Do you think that is a description of the same shape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    He is Atlantomediterranid-Atlantid, thats for sure, but something goes in a rather Nordid direction in his face, a typical Atlantomediterranid would look slightly different in my opinion, though he is pred. Atlantomediterranid.

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    Post Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    It would be interesting to prove the existence of similar eye forms in Eastnordids, I dont think that it is that common under them.
    I think its a Western Europid "Atlantid" trait going from Western Skandonordids to Westmediterranids - but especially Atlantomediterranids.
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    Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenlivet
    I am not sure such eyes are unique in Atlanto-Mediterranids but they are quite common among them. I observed it in the Merseyside region.
    Aye, I second that, from here in Manchester, further up the Mersey basin. It's a rather common sort of look round here, and as far as I know amongst local stock [i.e. not Irish or from distant regions of Britain]. One man I know with it is surnamed Derbyshire.

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    Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    I have noticed a narrow eye aperture on Atlanto-Mediterranids. If I remember him accurately, the tennis player Ivanesovic has eyes and a nasal tip which are typical of this type.

    From my observation, it seems these traits tend to be associated with a low vault and very sloping forehead.

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    AW: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    Ivanisevic is pred. Dinarid.
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    Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa
    It would be interesting to prove the existence of similar eye forms in Eastnordids, I dont think that it is that common under them.
    I think its a Western Europid "Atlantid" trait going from Western Skandonordids to Westmediterranids - but especially Atlantomediterranids.
    I have never seen such eyes in North-Eastern Europe neither among East-Nordids nor among Baltids nor even North Pontids... Imho it is very common in the Western Europe only - especially France, England and Spain...

    BTW, this pic imho shows some Dinaroid admix -


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    Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicola_Canadian
    I have never seen such eyes in North-Eastern Europe neither among East-Nordids nor among Baltids nor even North Pontids... Imho it is very common in the Western Europe only - especially France, England and Spain...

    BTW, this pic imho shows some Dinaroid admix -

    Nothing dinarid influence.

    And east-nordid is non important, since the person who coined the term; lundman himself thought this type to be almost completely disappeared. Basically he only includes three - imo a dubious interpretation - nordid subraces, the faelish, the north-atlantid and the scandonordid.

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    Re: Typical Atlanto-Mediterranid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicola_Canadian
    I have never seen such eyes in North-Eastern Europe neither among East-Nordids nor among Baltids nor even North Pontids... Imho it is very common in the Western Europe only - especially France, England and Spain...

    BTW, this pic imho shows some Dinaroid admix -

    England? I live here, never seen them at all.

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