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    Yeah, I think that's why alot of people resent Christianity, because it corroded their indigenous religions, just my two cents.

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    Post Now THIS is an interesting discussion

    The problem with Aryan 'high modes' is not a lack of thoughtfulness, but a superabundance of it. It is likely that other monotheistic Gods such as Jesus and Yahweh owe their simplistic origin to the likes of Zarathustra and Indic influence.

    If we step back and look at Aryan developements from afar, there appears three or four explosively 'creative' eras. There is Zarathustra acting, apparently, on his own. There is period of Upanishads in Bharat, the Greek philosophers and finally more recent Western philosophy.

    What is interesting about these periods is that not one conclusion is made, but many. Zarathustra is an exception here because his only competition was the older cults. To be sure, A philosopher offers A solution, but in the cases of Upanishads/Buddism, the Greeks and the modern there is an intense competition of ideas.

    There is indeed other common points among the three main examples. They all occur during a period of decay of older sources of stability. By the time of the Greek philosophers the Greeks themselves have become thoroughly detached from the martial vigor apparent in Illiad. By the time of Kant the upper classes in West have started to become weak. The last of the West's martial spirit will be spent on the battlefields of WWI and WWII leaving the decadent pacificism we see today.

    It is almost as if these higher considerations accompany social chaos, if not collapse. Whether either is cause or effect, I don't know.

    What seems certain is that the West is rapidly evolving culturally. This is a technically more accurate term for "collapse" since some historians balk at that harsh word. But collapse it is, nonetheless. Cultural detachment from our antecedents is already complete. The festering intellectual modes of the 18th through 20th Centuries combined with two World Wars and mass media have seen this transition occur within an unprecedented single generation.

    The Greco-Roman civilization held together for a few hundred years under Roman arms much as the American dominance professes to buttress a civilization which exists only in memory. In India, the higher aspirations led to the Buddist heresy and the mergence of earlier speculation with the Book of Manu in an attempt to stem change.

    Any hope for a political or cultural revival in the West is altoghter unlikely.


    But when I see the Gods as our senses, isn't there a possiblity that the Skandinavian, Germanic, Celtic and Roman traditions etc were changed to suit the requirements of the Church and to present them in a way such that "Jesus' state" could be augmented at their cost, in the eyes of the adherents of the church. And much of the literary traditions which we have access to in the modern times might have become thoroughly modified?

    Reverence in the Veda is to the reality of the "Self".

    No doubt that the extrapolation of Brahman and the Atman, as in appears in the Upanishads is of a later date and a slightly different message it carries, but looking at the rest of the Aryan traditions, and that includes the Iranian/Pars, it seems that their natural progression was obstructed and I dare say convoluted, in those years.
    Christianity attacked European paganism with fervor. Of that there is little doubt. But Xianity can't be the scapegoat for the Greeks' attack on their own traditions or the evolution of Brahman. In a sense, Zarathustra is more pure, at least insofar as we see with clarity one man's thoughts. Though Zoroastrianism would later evolve itself, early Z. presents a personified "force dualism" similar to Heraclitus (and may have inspired Heraclitus). Of course, what Z. lacks is peer criticism.

    I would have to agree though. In each case, these speculations are interrupted by circumstance, but also (especially the Greek and modern) by internal decay.

    We're headed for trouble, that's for sure. There may be few survivors in two hundred years who can call themselves Aryan by blood and thought.

    So far, Rahul, you're the only one I've met with a serious mind to synthesizing a sensible whole from the mish-mash we've inherited.

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    It is a problem that our heritage is memory-holed as if the tabula rasa mentality complemented the damnatio memoriae policy. Roman Christians systematically eradicated our Germanic Heathen folk of their raison d'etre and left them as amnesiacs to be spoonfed subordinate drivel. If we're most relevant to ourselves, then always filtering our self perception through foreign lenses will only continue to debase our meaning of life.

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    Ah yes this game. I've seen this before on Stormfront. Where as if on cue every single week someone would bait the Christians week after week after week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Ah yes this game. I've seen this before on Stormfront. Where as if on cue every single week someone would bait the Christians week after week after week.
    Every weekend, anyone not going to churches is some kind of freak in the minds of Christians. Those churches took away our temples and gloat over the ruins for tourist traps, but will never allow rebuilding them, so who baits who? We're made to feel wrong for desiring a purely Aryan, non-Jew religion once again as cornerstone of our community life. What do we make of Christian worship of any man born into a Middle Eastern family? The Jews used to say Aryan Cyrus the Great was their new Moses/messiah long before their bastard Arab brothers overthrew Persia, so why would we want to follow a carpenter turned rabbi? If some so-called Jews choose Aryan Buddha over the Talmud, why should we be enthralled by Hebrew and Aramaic texts, instead of already being in Buddha's monastery in the Himalayas rather than one based on Mt Sinai? Consistent antisemitism includes praise for self-hating Jewry, not bending over backwards to appease those who conveniently provide an outcast prophet for Greeks to worship like another Adonis before him.

    If you can't see spirituality from an innocently Indo-Germanic POV, but only from inside a box prescribed by some Mediterranean foreigners, who are you to complain about any of us more in touch with our innate human differences we're all supposedly interested preserving? Should Scipio have thrown in his lot with Hannibal? If we follow your line of thought, we will do nothing but abandon ourselves to the Paulinist joining of Jew and Greek in Jesus. That was his Epistle to the Galatians. So what if baptism is a substitute for circumcision? It's a ritualistic impurity in itself to suggest we're dirty Goyim unless we grovel to a dead Bedlamite. This demand for purging ourselves of our inborn spirit and having it be replaced with Semitic psychosis is exactly the kind of modus operandi that the modern Jew demands of us. The Pope is just Archpriest of Roman Judaism, or Jewish Romans. Orthodox Pentarchs were just leaders of the Greek Sanhedrin.

    Wouldn't it be better to live like Augustus or Pilate and deal with Herod or Caiaphas authoritatively and disregarding their non-binding judgments? Jesus is nothing before Zeus, lol! Look at how fellow Indo-Germanics remain Pagan in Nepal and India, without any neurotic fixations on how the Abrahamists judge them. That used to be the norm for us, so where is the inviolate basis for Christianity among Indo-Germanic demographics? Why should we always kiss the arse of a charlatan enamoured by Levantine mysticism and mythology, instead of be like the Hare Krishna? Oh, it's ancient, huh, steeped in Judaism? Or, is Jesus a liberator from all primordial superstitions? "Deliver us from ourselves, oh crucified heroic guru. May we be your global sheep!" If Wicca is fake, it's got Christianity to thank for that role model. Jesus Christ! (LMAO)

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