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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    I think that he look more like a Georgian than a Russian. But he is from the southwest.



    I classify him as Pontid. The type is found in the Black Sea region. It is said to be found also among the Adyghe people. Interestingly enough, Tuapse, where he is born, lie just west of Adygea.
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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    Thanks!

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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenlivet
    I think that he look more like a Georgian than a Russian. But he is from the southwest.
    I think you are right and Pontid is a good option. Perhaps somebody will say that this is not important but... have a look:

    http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/ku...s/kramnik.html

    http://www.jinfo.org/Chess_Champions.html
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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    I already knew of that, call me paranoid, but I almost always search on Jew too.

    "Based on his surname, Kramnik is most probably of Jewish descent, but the extent of his Jewish background has been difficult to determine."

    http://www.jinfo.org/Chess_Champions.html

    It might be important info. I really do not know. Skildur might be able to help us with his greater knowledge about the local population.

    Quote Originally Posted by visigodo
    Perhaps somebody will say that this is not important but... have a look

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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    He doesn't look Pontid. I think Kramnik is a jew like many chess-players.
    On this pic he looks like 100% jew. What do you think?


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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    Visigodo, that is very interesting! Earlier today, I remarked to ... someone.....that this chess individual reminds me of a particular Russian Jew,and I showed a pic of the Jew from a website. The person did not agree nor disagree with me on the similarities, so maybe I am the only one who sees them. The person DID agree with Glenlivet's classification of the chess player as Pontid. Anyhow, at the time I had said that I wasn't going to say anything because I don't want people thinking I am accusing him of being a Jew just by making the comparisson. But now that visigodo points out that he does have some Jewish heritage, it is interesting to me that he resembles the guy.
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    Post Re: Classify Vladimir Kramnik

    Quote Originally Posted by Glenlivet
    I think that he look more like a Georgian than a Russian. But he is from the southwest.



    I classify him as Pontid. The type is found in the Black Sea region. It is said to be found also among the Adyghe people. Interestingly enough, Tuapse, where he is born, lie just west of Adygea.
    Yes, a good observation. BTW, it seems that Pontid is one of the neglected phenotypes we see. Is there any additional information on them available through the internet?

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