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    I have a question. If you look at a haplogroup map of Europe you will see that the three most common are R1b, R1a, and I. Now some surveys have claimed to show a difference between the Germanic and Celtic peoples of England. Blood of the Vikings, for example, classes three groups as Germano-Dane, Norwegian, and British. How are these uncovered? Are they just random mutations on the basic three chromosones?
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    Post Re: Germano-Dane Y Chromosone

    R1a, R1b & I all have subgroups which have additional mutations;

    R1a > R1a1 > R1a1a, R1a1b, R1a1c
    R1b > R1b1, R1b2, R1b3, R1b4, R1b5, R1b6, R1b7, R1b8
    I > I1> I1a > I1a1, I1a2, I1a3
    I > I1 > I1b > I1b1
    I > I1 > I1b> I1b2 > Ib2a

    The British & Saxon/Danes both have haplogroups R1a, R1b, & I, accounting for the overwhelming majority of the population. Scientists studied the additional subgroups to determine the percentage of invader ,"Angle, Saxon, Jute, Dane & Norwegian", in the modern English population. Some of the subgoups are present in Denmark/North Germany, but not in parts of Wales still heavily celtic. The invader contribution to the English population is about 67% in the paternal line. But both populations are mainly descendant from the same small group that was living Northwestern Europe
    thousands of years ago (Paleolithic ?). This is probably R1. I think I haplogroup represents the Indo-Europeans (Kurgan).

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    Post Re: Germano-Dane Y Chromosone

    What about scotland and ireland?

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    Post Re: Germano-Dane Y Chromosone

    Scotland is similar to England, with a Briton, Angle-Saxon/Danish mixture on the mainland. I do'nt remenber the percentages. Some areas of the British Isles have Norwegian DNA such as Penrith in England & the Scottish Isles. England & Scotland have a mixture of R1b, R1a, & I or their subgroups. There are also small amounts of E3b & J. This probably represents the first farmers in Europe, who came from the middle-east. Wales & Ireland are predominately R1b with some I. I think the Irish results are from the gaelic Irish, not the descendants of more recent English & Scottish settlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    Scotland is similar to England, with a Briton, Angle-Saxon/Danish mixture on the mainland. I do'nt remenber the percentages. Some areas of the British Isles have Norwegian DNA such as Penrith in England & the Scottish Isles. England & Scotland have a mixture of R1b, R1a, & I or their subgroups. There are also small amounts of E3b & J. This probably represents the first farmers in Europe, who came from the middle-east. Wales & Ireland are predominately R1b with some I. I think the Irish results are from the gaelic Irish, not the descendants of more recent English & Scottish settlers.
    No. There are different subclades of R1b, R1a and I haplogroups! There are R1b subclades which are more common in Germanic populations, others more common in Celtic populations. The same goes with the R1a and the I haplogroups.

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