Is There A Link Between The Flying Saucer Movement And The National Socialists? Some People Say There Is! Is This True?
Flying Saucers & NS
Is There A Link Between The Flying Saucer Movement And The National Socialists? Some People Say There Is! Is This True?
Scientists and Ingenieurs in the Third Reich surely did many researches in revolutionary flying systems or at least experimented in such ideas, but if you talk of all those stories of Hitler flying in an UFO to the North Pole, that's nothing but techno-esoteric junk for me.
www.reichsflugscheiben.de
Man ſei Held oder Heiliger. In der Mitte liegt nicht die Weisheit, ſondern die Alltäglichkeit.
SPENGLER
I seen a photo of what looked like a Stealth Bomber that was made in NS Germany.
Mostly all of these aircrafts/tanks/weapons etc. in USA/Britian nowadays etc.
Were originally designed and created by SS-scientist and other members of the NSDAP etc.
UFO's were created as well, and its not only belief but also proof (pictures/sketches/documents).
If you are interested look into Occult,
to find the truth behind what really happend to our Führer and about the secret u-boats to Neu-Schwabenland(Antartica).
Private msg me if you would like to see good sites on secret weapons/Occult
because I will not post sites for people who will make problems.
PS. To all the non-believers, read and think about it, look and think beyond the Zionist lies, and IF still not believe well then we dont need your worthless
Heart/Mind.
message Herr Heinrich OR email ulfsark88@hotmail.com
for (anti-zionist sites, zionist products to boycott etc,Occult...)
Last edited by Moody; Monday, November 6th, 2006 at 05:53 PM. Reason: merged
"For the gate is narrow and the way leads to life, and those whom find it are few"
Having spent many years studying German flying discs, I feel some comments are in order. First, the German internet reference cited at the top of this discussion is about 1% of the evidence available. Further, it cites Luftfahrt International in which a 1975 article was so-so about German saucers. This article has now largely been discredited. Secondly, the web-site referred to above says Rudolf Schiever lived till 1966 and worked in America after the war. This is based on work by a German-writer-publisher, Thomas Mehner, whom I know. He has the statement of a Bavarian woman, in Bavarian, translated into High German which I have. She says she saw Schriever in 1966. Another report from the same book says Schriever worked in the USA after the war. I could find no such record and consider this report suspect.
This aside, I have spoken with J. Andreas Epp by telephone and corresponded with him. He saw and took pictures of a German disc in flight. They are in his book, Die Realitaete der Deutchen Flugscheiben. Epp says this was the Otto Habermohl model. Schriever's disc never flew beyond perhaps a couple hops off the ground. Both the Habermohl model and the Miethe model flew well. Well means 1300 mph and 60,000 feet----no this is not a misprint. This program was originally run by the German Air Force, later taken over by the SS. Georg Klein oversaw this program for both organizations and was involved in making the final decision as to which saucer to manufacture--along with Dr. Ing. Hans Kammler. Kammler, according to a newspaper interview by Klein after the war, picked the Habermohl model which was easier and cheaper to build. Klein says he saw the Habermohl model fly in 1944. Besides this, I found a witness, now living in Canada,k who saw the liftoff from a school room window as a child.
Besides Schriever, Habermohl and Miethe, there was a Feuerball (foo fighter) program. I have (finally) forced the US goverment to come clean about this and they have provided a 1944 Defence Intelligence Briefing stating that "Phoo Bombs" as they called them, where German circular turbojet devices which could be expected to challenge Allied air power in 1945.
Further, the Germans experimented with field propulsion vehicles during the war and according to one F.B.I. report, also obtained via Freedom of Information, the craft was huge and lifted of silently, stopping motorized vehicles. This report was from a Pole doing agricultural work in the area who saw the saucer and later immigrated to the USA.
Heinreich Fleissner, mentioned at the German web-site, was granted a patent for a flying saucer in 1965. It took ten years because the US goverment was working on it also. Fleissner was a hydrolic engineer at Peenemuende and a consultant on the German saucer program. He says in a German magazine article that as Berlin fell, four German flying discs left Tempelhof Airport.
Believe me, there are a million stories and lots of proof. This web-site is only a drop in the bucket. There is no doubt, there is a 100% certainty that the Germans built and flew things we today would call flying saucers.
Flying Saucers & National Socialism
As I said before, this is a complex study. It can not be understood or explained by one liners. Herr Heinrich and Lichtreich know what I am talking about. There are many who believe Hitler left Berlin. There are some who believe in the Nordic as extraterrestial hypothesis and it is they who are responsible for German saucers. The major proponent of this theory is the Austrian Norbert Juergen-Ratthofer. Nothing I have found links the Thule Gesellschaft with German saucers. See Detlev Rose's Die Thule-Gesellschaft. I have a list of its members---nothing out of the ordinary. The evidence on the Viril Society is less clear since there are pictures showing its members with a flying disc. The material Juergen-Ratthofer presented in his movies, notably Die Gehimnis der deutschen Flugsheiben, is incorrect in linking Dr.W.O. Schumann with either the Virl or Thule groups. I have Schumann's FOIA file. He spent the war at the Technische Hochschule in Munich working on batteries. Likewise, most writers on this subject simply read over each other's shoulders without ever looking at the primary literature and there is primary literature. There are people who say they build German saucers, people who say they saw blueprints of German saucers, people who say they saw German saucers in flight and YES, even people who say they test-flew German saucers.
All you German readers can see the results of the latest work on foo fighters from my friend Heiner Gehring who has published many books on the subject and has an article in Magazin 2000, either this edition or next edition.
But German saucers are not the end of scientific and technical work done at that time. There are many, many, many----worlds of knowledge that the Allies kept from us after the war and worlds of knowledge the SS kept from the Allies.
Flying Saucers & National Socialism
Yngve, it seems that you and I are the only people taking this conversation seriously. I am here, at skaldi.net as a vacation, that is, on hiatus from doing research in this field now. This is obviously not the forum in which you question will be answered. You might try www.naziufos.com but that site may sill be by invitation only, I don't know. There are many articles and references in many languages. I can give you references in English, German, Czech, Polish, Italian, and I think there is even one in Finnish. There are also books and articles written by those who actually participated in building German flying discs, I can provide a list of these also if you are interested.
In Swedish, I only have one but it is a good one. It is a newspaper story from Aftonbladet, dated 10/10/52, titled: "Flygande tefat var Hitlers A 7-vapen". (Flying Saucer was Hitler's A-7 Weapon). This was a very embarassing story for the US authorities at the time since it described Dr. Werner von Braun's involvement in this project. Dr. von Braun was then working in the USA and had publicly denied involvement in the German saucer projects. The saucer descirbed in Aftonbladet lifted off in April, 1944 and was six meters in diameter. It described the Reich's future saucer plans in detail and diagrams and tells us that this future model was designed to fly at an altitude of 100 kilometers and would have been atomic powered.
Please let me know if you need more informaton.
It is the well-known Wilhelm Busch...Originally Posted by Phlegethon
What is about this evil-lizards/jews? I have not heard about this? Seems to be interesting...
For german readers :
http://www.mental-ray.de/Mental-Ray/
Last edited by Moody; Monday, November 6th, 2006 at 05:53 PM.
For all the weirdo, thinking out side the box, Nazis like me befor you get banned contact me about some of the ideas you have because I am starting up a web site called 'Kutheen', the current web adress being http://anzwers.org/free/fornmegin and I want to fill it with all this kind of odd stuff.
"Hitler's Flying Saucers" by Henry Stevens.
"Hitler's Flying Saucers: A Guide to German Flying Discs of the Second World War" by Henry Stevens.
Complete e-book with photos: http://missilegate.com/rfz/
See also from the same site video interview with William Lyne (http://missilegate.com/rfz/video1.htm) and book "Reich of the Black Sun" by Joseph P. Farrell (http://missilegate.com/rfz/swaz/index.htm).
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