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    After stirring up the shit, the kikes keep a low profile and let white men do the fighting and the dying. If they try to draft you white man to fight the kike's war, laugh in their faces like Muhammed Ali and dare them to do anything about it!


    WASHINGTON, July 30 (JTA) — With plans for a U.S. attack against Iraq being formulated within the Bush administration and garnering front-page headlines, American Jewish leaders are wondering how loudly to raise their voices.
    Jewish leaders from across the political spectrum support the plans for regime change in Iraq, believing it would be in the best interests of both Israel and the United States.

    But some analysts say Jewish leaders are trying to keep a low profile out of concern that critics might say America is attacking Iraq to benefit Israel.

    “Why should it be a Jewish or Israeli issue?” asked Morris Amitay, a pro-Israel activist and former executive director of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. “We should stay as patriotic as the next guy, but not be out front.”

    The debate in Jewish organizations closely reflects the groups’ conundrum before the 1991 Persian Gulf War. Jewish leaders largely supported the first President Bush’s plans to attack Iraq, and worked to rouse congressional support for the war.

    But then too, Jewish leaders were hesitant to speak out, fearing that some would think America had gone to war for Israel because of American Jewish pressure on Congress.

    Those concerns were fueled in part by comments from Pat Buchanan, the conservative former presidential candidate, who said that Israel and its “amen corner” in the United States were trying to push the Bush administration into war.

    “It was a partisan issue,” said one official with a Jewish organization. “Jews were very supportive but very uneasy about being put out front.”

    There seems to be a bit less concern today.

    “It was clear in ’91 that there was no backlash,” said David Harris, the executive director of the American Jewish Committee. “The dire predictions of some were just plain wrong.”

    Some Americans may be apprehensive about attacking Iraq, worrying about the possibility of casualties, economic disruption or retaliatory terrorism.

    But unlike the situation a decade ago, this administration has framed the prospect of attacking Iraq in a broader, more publicly acceptable light as part of the U.S.-led international war on terrorism.

    A change of regime in Baghdad still would benefit Israel, but the Jewish state is not seen as the sole, or even primary, beneficiary of a war.

    “The administration has made it very clear that this is an American concern,” said Tom Neumann, executive director of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. “The American community is united in this war, and the president has done a good job of pointing that out.”

    But that does not necessarily mean American Jewish groups will take a higher profile.

    “Many in the American Jewish community don’t feel the necessity of speaking out when the policy direction already seems quite clear, and to many, seems like it is headed in the right direction,” Harris said.

    “We’ll be supporting, rather than leading,” one Jewish official agreed. “Everybody’s waiting for the bells to go off.”

    But Neumann said he believes JINSA could be more vocal.

    “We’re going to make a stronger statement and make a more in-depth statement,” he said.

    The Jewish community views an attack on Iraq as advantageous on several levels.

    First, any action against Iraq would come in part because of the country’s role in fostering international terrorism. Iraq is seen as a haven for Al-Qaida, the organization behind the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

    Second, a regime change in Iraq would be in Israel’s best interest. Iraq’s production of weapons of mass destruction and apparent willingness to use them are a constant threat to Israel’s security, as well as the security of other American allies in the region such as Turkey.

    Third, American engagement in Iraq could help Israel’s standing in its conflict with the Palestinians. President Saddam Hussein has been financially assisting Palestinian terrorist groups and giving funds to the families of suicide bombers. Many believe Hussein would try to rally Arab governments to his side by attacking Israel.

    In addition, some argue that overthrowing Hussein would send a strong message to the Palestinians about the consequences of terrorism.

    American Jewish groups do have some concern about how an attack on Iraq will affect Israel. In 1991, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir was pressured not to retaliate for Iraqi missile attacks on Israel.

    Israel expected that its restraint would win stronger American support, but soon after the war Bush engaged in an open standoff with Shamir over Israeli settlement policy.

    The administration also pressured Israel — over Shamir’s objections — to attend a Mideast peace conference in Madrid.

    This time around, Israeli officials have stressed that they will indeed retaliate if targeted, but some are worried that the United States may again urge restraint.

    Additionally, if the Bush administration seeks international support for an attack on Iraq, the White House could promise progress on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — often a euphemism for Israeli concessions — in exchange for Arab support.

    Arab leaders, it appears, will seek to link the two issues. Jordan’s King Abdullah already has said it would be “somewhat ludicrous” for the United States to seek regime change in Iraq without first making progress on the Israeli-Palestinian front.

    But that seems to be less of a concern than in the Gulf War. White House officials have told Jewish leaders that the Bush administration is “past that point” of linking the two issues.

    Scott Lasensky, a Middle East expert at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, said the fact that the Bush administration has laid out coherent end games for both fronts — an eventual Palestinian state with new leadership and a change of regime in Iraq — lessens the concerns that one will be bartered for the other.

    Lasensky said the Bush administration does not need American Jewish support for an attack on Iraq, and that it even could be counterproductive.

    “There is the concern that the old specter of linkage could be revived by an overzealous advocacy campaign by supporters of Israel in the United States,” he said.

    While this is not a major concern, he said, the more American Jews speak out, the more that danger will rise.

    Lasensky recommended that supporters of Israel limit their advocacy to issues directly related to Israel, such as Iraq’s support of Palestinian suicide bombers.

    Even if the Jewish community is ready to speak out, now is not seen as the right time. The Bush administration will need to detail its plans before the Jewish community will get involved, if they get involved at all, leaders say.

    “My assumption is that those who are supportive will find a way to express it to the White House, Congress and the general public,” Harris said.


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    Personally I do not like the Iraqi regime, but I also do not support an offensive against Iraq which could anticipate World War 3 between the West (and thus Aryans) and the Islamic world which could leave a lot of Aryan (and also non-Aryan) victims. I doubt how much the Iraqi regime would not use its weapons of mass destruction against Aryans, and I do not like the fact that that regime possesses such weapons. I definitely do not support that regime, because I do not trust it, since it could cost the lives of Aryans. Therefore in this question I am against the attack, but I am also against the regime.

    I have a question, what percentage of population do Jews count in the U.S.A.?

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    I have a question, what percentage of population do Jews count in the U.S.A.?
    According to the official tally they comprise about 2.5% of the total population, but I suspect that is a conservative figure. I am more concerned about nuclear weapons in the hands of Israel than I am in the hands of Arabs.

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    funny thing (actually not really funny) but there are far more "jews" in America then in Israel. There seems to be some sort of trend in white people thinking it's cool to be a jew, must be a hollywood thing.

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    Originally posted by Strapu


    According to the official tally they comprise about 2.5% of the total population, but I suspect that is a conservative figure. I am more concerned about nuclear weapons in the hands of Israel than I am in the hands of Arabs.
    I am concerned of Jewish control of Nuclear weapons as well, eventually if Aryans would seek to remove the Jews from Aryan lands, those weapons could pose a threat, as much as such weapons in the hands of the Muslims.

    2.5% of the population is relatively few, compared to the control they exert on American policies and media.

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    2.5% of the population is relatively few, compared to the control they exert on American policies and media.
    To say the least; particularly when you can pick up a phone book in any major city and fully 50% of the lawyers are kikes, not to mention that everything we see, hear or read has to be filtered through some kike somewhere as though they are the last word on information. I say ban ALL of the kikes and then nuke that "shitty little country" before they have time to yap about it!

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    With regard to Bush's latest noises... I don't like Saddam one little bit; but Bush is not entitled to try to bring down the government of any other country.
    The USA is seen to be saying to other countries: "look, I don't like your government, it isn't free or democratic, so I'm going to change it for you - whether you like it or not".
    Which may go part of the way to explaining why the US is not liked in some parts of the world.

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    With regard to Bush's latest noises... I don't like Saddam one little bit; but Bush is not entitled to try to bring down the government of any other country.
    Not to mention the Palestinians. All Bush has done by echoing the Jews whispering in his ear, is to make certain that the people of Palestine fully support Arafat whether they would have before or not! Why should we be concerned if the majority of a country supports a leader? Are we only concerned with Israel as a "democracy?" Israel is more of a fascist state than it is a democracy. The Jews are making the U.S. look like fools in front of the whole damn world with the collaboration of politicians like Bush and others.

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    Post Re: Re: Nazzjonalista

    Originally posted by Strapu


    According to the official tally they comprise about 2.5% of the total population, but I suspect that is a conservative figure.
    I think that number is correct but I also heard the number 8 mio Jews?

    I am more concerned about nuclear weapons in the hands of Israel than I am in the hands of Arabs.
    Me too, Jews can justify their actions in any way, they are real talented, the Palestinians and other half apes are not so smooth, its more a matter if the western world allow them or not, well my future scenery is: we can always take it away from them, I hate nuclear bombs no matter who the fuck own them and they shouldn't have been invented in the first place but we have oppenheimer and Einstein or whatever those pigs call them self and other fucking Jews to thank for that, Arabs are easier to control, the Jews are out of control, they want trouble. they invented weapons which are able to obliterate the whole fucking earth, and some say they still dont want trouble? they are destined for degeneration.
    I dont understand where this final confrontation is hiding. I want to confront every parasite on this earth.

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    Arabs are easier to control, the Jews are out of control, they want trouble. they invented weapons which are able to obliterate the whole fucking earth, and some say they still dont want trouble? they are destined for degeneration.
    The Jews feel exactly the same about the White race because they know that niggers and mongrels are easier to control, but the White race throughout history has eventually given them hell. All they need to do with niggers and mongrels is supply plenty of watermelons, basketballs and rap music.
    Look at the last Presidential election when 9 out of 10 niggers voted for the party giving away the most of "Whitey's" watermelons!
    Whites are going to have to wise up and start approaching everything they do by RACE, just like niggers, kikes and other muds do all the time.
    The Jews know that if the majority of white people ever become as racially aware as the niggers are, then next time the ovens will be REAL and they'll be LARGE enough to hold every damn one of them!
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