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    Post Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    None?!

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Um - that's GK Chesterton's quote, not attributable to me. Minor point, but important point.
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    There is nothing the matter with Americans except their ideals. The real American is all right; it is the ideal American who is all wrong. ~G.K. Chesterton

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    --I shall go back a bit, and tell you the authentic history of Christianity.--The very word "Christianity" is a misunderstanding--at bottom there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross. The "Gospels" died on the cross. What, from that moment onward, was called the "Gospels" was the very reverse of what he had lived: "bad tidings," a Dysangelium.14It is an error amounting to nonsensicality to see in "faith," and particularly in faith in salvation through Christ, the distinguishing mark of the Christian: only the Christian way of life, the life lived by him who died on the cross, is Christian. . .
    Friedrich Nietzsche -The Antichrist- 39

    E-text: http://www.fns.org.uk/ac.htm

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Nietzsche saw Christ as a model for his superman I hope you know.

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taras Bulba
    Nietzsche saw Christ as a model for his superman I hope you know.
    Perhaps but since your not christ, but a christian he would have thought low of your way of life.

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thiuda
    but a christian he would have thought low of your way of life.
    Like I'd give a shit!

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taras Bulba
    Like I'd give a shit!
    I just hoped you'd know.

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taras Bulba
    Nietzsche saw Christ as a model for his superman I hope you know.
    No, he didn't.

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Yes he did and here's an entire article about his postive feelings towards Christ. It was rather St. Paul that angered him.

    http://facweb.stvincent.edu/academic...s/rodkey2.html

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    In short, Nietzsche respects and admires Jesus of Nazareth, "but denies that he has any meaning for our age" Nietzsche believes the Jewish contention that Jesus is not the Messiah and that the Messiah has not yet appeared in history. Even so, Nietzsche reveres Jesus as no other character in history, particularly because he came to know Jesus as the very opposite of Christianity.
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    In conclusion, Nietzsche clearly has pronounced separate judgements upon the man Jesus of Nazareth and the religion that is believed to be loosely based on Jesus' life, Christianity. To Nietzsche, Jesus was a great man worthy of respect, perhaps even an Übermensch; Christianity, however, is corrupt insofar as the fathers of the church institutionalized the teachings of Jesus in an act of hostility towards the Jews. Furthermore, Nietzsche believes that Christianity has become the very establishment against which Jesus rebelled in Judaism: an already corrupt, stagnant, static, hierarchial religion.


    I have yet to find any literature on Nietzsche that explains anything but his admiration for Jesus Christ.

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    Re: Are there any real Christians in here?

    Not I, that's for sure.

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