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    I say that they are a race masqurading as a religion. As Benjamin Freedman stated, 98% of todays "jews" are Khazars & are not really considered as jews per se. They are the more mongral form of the jew. They are phallic worshipping pagens & are considered to be the most violent of the jew tribes. The guise of religion was a sort of spin-the-bottle like decision they made centuries ago.
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    Post Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    I am sure this has been discussed before but I would like to hear some opinions on the matter. However, I am really not interested in hearing from people who hate Jews unless you can present your ideas in a courteous, polite and rational manner. For the record, I am not Jewish.

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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    They aren't a race, calling them a race would be like saying that all French are part of the same (sub)race, they are Middle Eastern people, I believe they were predominantly armenoid, but they mixed with other races and eventually many of them became European looking.

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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    It's a waste of time questioning religion or race. Only thing we need to do is take them out of power.

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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    I agree with Irish Nationalist, that said Jews really fall into a number of catagorys. In the true sence of the word they really are not a race as jews can be anything from Nordic to Negroid. They are not neccisarily JUST a religion either, as there are millions of athiestic communist Jews out there. They are however a Culture, or rather a group of cultures based loosly around thier religion and ethnic background. they are a very diverse group of people in every respect.

    As ethnic groups go, and as a race in the very loose sence of the word there is a major divsion between Jewish factions, the Ashenazim and the Sephardim. The Sephardics as I understand it are the true jews being of semitic origin and from the near east. The Ashkenazim are decendants of the Khazars from eastern europe and as I understand it are a Finno-Ugric peoples with signifigant turkic and mongoloid admixure. They adopted Judasim as a unifying religion and are not truely "Jewish" although they do make up the majority in Israel today (which in itself is a very interesting issue).

    Jews can be pretty much anything. A religion, an ethnic group ("race" if you will), Black, "caucasian", and brown. No mater what they are they, or where they are they always stand in opposition to the preservation of our ways of life. From the money lenders and court Jews of ancient times, who were expelled from almost every country in europe for usury, extortion and racketeering among other things, to the modern Zionist, to the Jewish bolshvik founders of communism.

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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    [QUOTE=Stew]I agree with Irish Nationalist, that said Jews really fall into a number of catagorys. In the true sence of the word they really are not a race as jews can be anything from Nordic to Negroid. [QUOTE]

    How So?

    They are not neccisarily JUST a religion either, as there are millions of athiestic communist Jews out there.
    Correct there are also Christian Jews (since the time of Christ) etc.

    They are however a Culture, or rather a group of cultures based loosly around thier religion and ethnic background. they are a very diverse group of people in every respect

    They are however a Culture, or rather a group of cultures based loosly around thier religion and ethnic background. they are a very diverse group of people in every respect As ethnic groups go, and as a race in the very loose sence of the word there is a major divsion between Jewish factions, the Ashenazim and the Sephardim. The Sephardics as I understand it are the true jews being of semitic origin and from the near east. The Ashkenazim are decendants of the Khazars from eastern europe and as I understand it are a Finno-Ugric peoples with signifigant turkic and mongoloid admixure. They adopted Judasim as a unifying religion and are not truely "Jewish" although they do make up the majority in Israel today (which in itself is a very interesting issue).
    Jews of semitic origin are Jews. All others are merely followers of Judaism.
    You are right in saying that those who have merely adopted a religion are not Jews. Why do you say a race in the very loose sence of the word?

    They are however a Culture, or rather a group of cultures based loosly around thier religion and ethnic background. they are a very diverse group of people in every respect As ethnic groups go, and as a race in the very loose sence of the word there is a major divsion between Jewish factions, the Ashenazim and the Sephardim. The Sephardics as I understand it are the true jews being of semitic origin and from the near east. The Ashkenazim are decendants of the Khazars from eastern europe and as I understand it are a Finno-Ugric peoples with signifigant turkic and mongoloid admixure. They adopted Judasim as a unifying religion and are not truely "Jewish" although they do make up the majority in Israel today (which in itself is a very interesting issue).
    Jews can be pretty much anything. A religion, an ethnic group ("race" if you will), Black, "caucasian", and brown.
    No a Jew is of semetic origin.....those who are black white or brindle may perhaps have some Jewish blood in their ancestry they may even follow Judaism they may even be Israeli but they are not Jewish.

    No mater what they are they, or where they are they always stand in opposition to the preservation of our ways of life. From the money lenders and court Jews of ancient times, who were expelled from almost every country in europe for usury, extortion and racketeering among other things, to the modern Zionist, to the Jewish bolshvik founders of communism.
    It seems to me that you are confusing an entire race with the actions of a few. Surely Irish unionists expelled from Ireland for their tawdry and disreputable actions are not an indication of the worth or lack of worth of the whole of the Irish people. You only need to look in the papers to see that anyone in positions of power are compromised morally in every country and across all industries and ethnic backgrounds. You may keep in mind also that it is easy to highlight a minority and trump up charges against them......this is usually done by those envious of the positions held by others.........you also might care to take a look at your political leaders and heads of industry and the soft sentences given to white collar criminals and tell me if anything has changed even when your own country men are running the show.
    I refer to all countries when I state this even my own Australia.
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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    Jews are a) a religious and b) an ethnic group.

    There subgroups form populations. If you say a population, a group which is relatively endogamic and everyone can breed with each other, is a race, then they are a race.

    In the strict sence they have their own racial characteristics, f.e. Ashkenazic Jews are mainly Armenid-Alpine imo, but are no race at all.

    They are a religous-cultural and ethnic group with oftentimes a social status on their own from Antiquity on.

    To say just pure Semits are Jews is absurd, because in this strict sence there would exist no European Jews at all.

    Semitic is mainly Orientalid and Orientalid are the Oriental-Yemenite and partly the Sephardic, but to a much lesser extend the Ashkenazic Jews.
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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    My view of the subject is that a Jew by definition is an adherent of Judaism, therefore it is a religious label. A woman may convert to Judaism and her children will be considered fully Jewish.

    It cannot be a race for the reasons already mentioned above, namely they are chiefly Ashkenazic Jews and Sephardic Jews, with some Ethiopian Jews as well, so they come from diverse backgrounds.

    But it seems to me in this day and age that it is primiraly an ethnic label, if by "ethnic" we take it to mean a group of people with a common outlook and who share similar customs and objectives, seeing each other as part of "their group". This obviously applies best to our times as of course their are athiests who still consider themselves as Jewish.

    The ancient semitic Jews of the Old Testament would be better reffered to as Hebrews in my opinion, although there may have been small numbers of non-Hebrews who adopted the religion and were thus also Jews (adherents of Judaism).
    From a Christian point of view, Judaism ended with Christ's death and resurrection. What exists today is Talmudism, which was deveolped by the rabbi's in the centuries following Christ's death. I believe Jewish scholars have also admitted that their brand of Judaism is not the Judaism of the Old Testament Hebrews. The rabbi's are the descendants of the Pharisee's, whom Jesus bitterly opposed, and who ultimately had him put to death for it.


    In conclusion, a Jew is strictly speaking a practioner of Judaism.
    In a wider sense (more common today), it is a sort of ethnic term relating to people who have a heritage of Judaism in their family

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    Post Re: Jewish: Race, Religion or Ethnic Type

    World Jewry is a meta-ethnicity, just like there is a Germanic meta-ethnicity. World Jewry is a biological-spiritual community, with a tendency towards parasitism, degeneracy and hell-raising.

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    Both. Why shouldn't this be the case for all peoples? How come Jews are so superior, their religious views are considered an exportable extension of themselves, to be consumed and emulated by Aryans, but Aryans should condemn ourselves even though Cambodians and Indonesians built massive temples in our honour, like Angkor Wat and Borobudur? Why should everyone carry the Jew cross on our shoulders and re-export it around the world? Is Aryan heritage truly 'icky' in the eyes of Aryans? Beating ourselves down for the Jew legacy is ignominious! Christian nihilism is a funny quandary, absconding any firm foundation in anything but a vacuum, but still tethered so unsatisfactorily to those things which are half-heartedly accepted. No wonder 'Christendom' is so weak.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angkor_Wat
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