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    First of all I am just starting to get interested in Eugenics and Race-Related matters. Pera_Z gave this link to a very interesting web-site, which is: http://www.prometheism.net .

    I would like to know what exactly does Eugenics entail, how could it improve the Aryan Race and Humanity? What are Eugenic practices that are practical? Dysgenics is the opposite of Eugenics, but what does it exactly entail?

    The improvement of the Race in all aspects is of cardinal importance to any Aryan and Nationalist, how can we use Eugenics for this purpose?

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    Post Re: Eugenics and the future of the Race and Humanity

    Originally posted by Nazzjonalista
    First of all I am just starting to get interested in Eugenics and Race-Related matters. Pera_Z gave this link to a very interesting web-site, which is: http://www.prometheism.net .

    I would like to know what exactly does Eugenics entail, how could it improve the Aryan Race and Humanity? What are Eugenic practices that are practical? Dysgenics is the opposite of Eugenics, but what does it exactly entail?

    The improvement of the Race in all aspects is of cardinal importance to any Aryan and Nationalist, how can we use Eugenics for this purpose?
    Eugenics is of course to make any certain people in any certain population better. The means of doing this most commonly include:

    -Sterilization of diseased (the ones who's diseases that are inherited and will be passed on to their children), and mentally retarded, and phsychos.

    -Selective breeding of the best specimens of selected group

    -Promoting the ones with the best genes to have more children

    -The breeding out of bad gene characteristics

    -OCCASIONALLY breeding for a certain racial type or phenotype genotype etc.....

    Dysgenics are applied to what happens when said group inherits worse and worse genes with each successive generation, because the most inept people tend to have the most kids in a society without some form of (positive selection) eugenics be it natural or inforced.

    I hope this will clarify some things!

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    Thanks a lot NordicPower88, I basically know that, I would like to start a discussion about Eugenics. I personally believe some sort of Eugenic program must be set-up for the improvement of the Race in Genetic terms. Perhaps someone more expert into these Race-related matters could speak his mind. Through a good knowledge of genetics we can improve the genetic stock of our Race and thus Humanity to reach a real superior level, that is why I find myself interested in this subject.

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    Here are some sites for your further reading:

    http://www26.brinkster.com/archived/
    http://www.eugenics.net/
    http://www.beloit.edu/~biology/genethics/eugenics.html

    and here they have about a thousand links to other eugenics sites:
    http://www.thalidomide.ca/gwolbring/...Pro%20EUGENICS

    I haven't read them all but they look good. I've been to eugenics.net for quite a long time and Brinkster is something I just discovered 2 days ago. The rest I searched for especially with you in mind, and are new to me too!

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    Post Re: Re: Eugenics and the future of the Race and Humanity

    Originally posted by NordicPower88

    -Sterilization of diseased (the ones who's diseases that are inherited and will be passed on to their children), and mentally retarded, and phsychos.
    so you suggest some sort of state control? why not make it common virtue among people.

    Who should define psychos? (I assume you refer to psychopatia)
    many psychopaths are clever and are those who hide and accuse,
    thus not the exposed element.

    who should point them out? a superficial state total impersonal to the situation and circumstances its judging in!

    -Selective breeding of the best specimens of selected group
    again who define this? a certain committee chosen by who?

    -Promoting the ones with the best genes to have more children
    by certain benefits?
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    Chemical Nose, you sound like a Red. Always trying to confuse the issues with so-called grey areas. Isn't it obvious how policies should be designed? We eleminate that component that is least desirable in society first. Thin the herd so to speak and propigate what is left of our pure race. It takes research and studiousness to determine those that are neither the greatest nor the least and their place but it can be done. We can start by sterilizing and executing/exiling the obvious. Blacks, child molesters, Jews, the rest of the mud races etc....

    You expose your true colors when you try to throw plans for a pure race into confusion. x_nono

    Support your brothers and think of a resolution don't discourage the truth or the way that seems difficult.

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    I didn't suggest anything yet!! I was only explaining the idea of eugenics! I can try to find the answers but it will take more than ONE person to formulate a sensible eugenics plan.

    Anyway, it's obvious we need eugenics, and quickly! It's not fair to bring cripples into this world when we could have prevented it. I find it inhumane to subject someone to a life of fear and rejection because of something they can't change. The same thing is with the other races and that's why they should have their own society and not live in ours- racial separation!

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    I would definitely support an Eugenics program aimed to improve our Racial Collective as Aryans and create Genetically Strong and Capable Offspring for a better future. By improving our own Race we improve Humanity, and I believe that every Race should follow an Eugenic program. Any opposition to such an ideal is in my opinion irrational and possibly also immoral.

    The Genetically Undesirable Traits should be removed from our Racial Gene Pool through any possible method, as that would eliminate the imperferctions in our Race as we follow our Evolutionary Path. Our aim when Genetics is concerned is simple :to outdo ourselves and to ensure that future generations are Superior to the current generations, and superior to other Races.The Genetically Desirable Traits should be increased in our Population through any possible method as well, since the objective of any Eugenics program should be to improve the Genetic Element of our Race and that is done not only by removing the Genetically Undesirable Traits, but most importantly by promoting the Genetically Desirable Traits.

    As the Knowledge in Human Genetics and Biology increases and Technology in this field gets more sophisticated and advanced we can use this Knowledge to reach our objective to Genetically improve our Race. This is a fascinating subject which should be made use of for the interests of the Aryan Race.

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    I saw where the discussion ended.

    For everything about eugenic you should read EUGENIC MANIFESTO by James L. Hart
    It is almost everything about it.

    It is very good work and maybe some comrades could misunderstand it.

    P.Z.
    Last edited by Pera_Z; Thursday, August 15th, 2002 at 11:49 AM.

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    The following is from http://eugenics.home.att.net/

    "Humans are very much like our primate ancestors. Unfortunately, with our larger intelligent brains, we have acquired the ability to foresee our deaths as soon as we are able to understand life, at a very young age. With this horror, we have instead of facing life with knowledge that we have a brief time to live -- a time to be made the most of -- we have turned back to our primitive instincts and succumbed to religion, false beliefs, and submission to dominance by others.

    The answer to this dilemma during most of this century, has been to try to change human culture, assuming it is infinitely malleable, leading to the agony of communism and the short comings of egalitarian democracies. And in the rest of the world, despotism reigns under numerous doctrines, with little hope for the people subjected to the state's propaganda. This web page is dedicated to putting forth the view that to change the human condition we must change the innate nature of humans, that is, we must encourage the breeding of people with a higher intellect, people better able to understand what motivates them and who can eventually revolt against the subjugation by the state or the controlling elite.

    It is my contention that this can be done by focusing on innate human traits we want to promote through a better understanding of behavior genetics. But to promote eugenics as a secular religion, it becomes necessary to begin with a political agenda to bring it about. Much of what I advocate, in keeping with the understanding that evolution occurs at the genetic, individual and group levels, has to do with advancing both individual eugenics and group eugenics. That is, it appears that eugenics can only be advanced in a world where nations are free to advance their own interests without interference.

    Anyone who is familiar with the United Nations, NATO, the European Economic Union, and the New World Order knows that we are on the brink of giving up national sovereignty for a world totalitarianism, where a central committee will dictate to the masses how to think and behave. We see this happening now in Yugoslavia, where NATO is being used to violently smash a sovereign state into obeying new international rules. I advocate only two viable options for eugenics: a return to nationalism, where competing nations will experiment with various social and scientific agendas to raise their peoples to higher levels of intelligence, followed by other traits the population desires to promote; and/or, to increase group solidarity and practice eugenics without borders. The second one has been practiced by Jews for thousands of years, but it can be a dangerous road to follow for it invariably leads to group conflict in the nations where they dominate. Much of my writing has to do therefore not just with the technology of eugenics, but with human nature and how we react as competing groups.

    Some have asked why I do not consider libertarianism in my scope of possible means for raising humans to higher levels. I do not discount it out right, especially since I personally have a very strong libertarian affinity. However, it appears that libertarianism is not attractive to most people except a few intellectuals, and I therefore prefer to focus on political systems that I feel have a potential for success. I hope libertarianism all the best, but I just do not see it as intricately bound to human nature as is the cohesiveness we find in national ethnic identity.

    Eugenics is here to stay, and the only question now is how severely will political forces try to stamp it out and what group or nation will be the victor in the end. But a more highly evolved human will be the result and this process will continue unabated into the future. Nietzsche's supermen are right around the corner waiting for their creator to begin the task. We are their creator, they are our children.

    Finally, you may ask why so many of my articles are intertwined with the Jewish approach to eugenics and why I use them over and over again to make numerous points about human behavior AND about the need for nationalism. First, Jews are one of the few identifiable groups (actually, the Ashkenazi Jews specifically) who have practiced eugenics with tenacious success that has raised their intelligence to a remarkably high level, along with increasing group cohesiveness leading to extreme ethnocentrism or xenophobia. Several issues arise from this achievement. First, because of the form of their genetic selection process, they have primarily developed their verbal skills, making them uniquely adept at manipulation, deception, propaganda, academics, the media, etc. This would not normally be a problem, except that they have managed with this verbal skill to control politics and national policy, while those with other skills have built the technological foundations of great nations in Europe and America. That is, the Jewish contribution may not have been very great or even negative, as their accumulation of far greater wealth than any other ethnic group has to do with their abilities in manipulation of other people through the power of words rather than through constructing or building industry. Skilled craftsmen and technicians are as important as lawyers, politicians, academics or journalists; but the rewards have gone to the elite who have the power of the word over the skill of the craftsmen.

    Second, Jews have been at the forefront of promoting multiculturalism, diversity, globalism, etc., while trying to block nationalism, while at the same time embracing Zionism. This faction of Jews, leftover from the days of Communism have maintained their presence in academics, the media and politics and are the primary stumbling block to other ethnic groups trying to form their own cohesive nationhood based on their genetic similarity, just like the Jews have done in Israel. My objection to Jewish influence in America therefore is strictly political and aimed at the Jewish left, not the empirical Jewish right, and their are many of them who reject multiculturalism and genetic assimilation of incompatible peoples. These Jews I embrace, the few that there are on the side of eugenics and human advancement.

    And from the East, I also see an emerging nationalism. It may be that the eugenic program I envision will take place in countries like Japan, Korea, China, Singapore, India, etc. They may be able to overcome the individualism and lack of solidarity found in the Christian West. Christianity may only be the expression of a people who are creative and intelligent, but lack Nietzsche's concept of "the will to power" necessary to turn against destructive sentimentality found in the West. We have much to learn about what is genetic, and what is cultural. But if Christian morality is made up of a genetic weakness then a new species of human will have to come from the East, or from a hybridization of East and West. This issue will be taken up in detail as we learn more about what contributes to each civilizations inability to apply eugenics effectively. But competition between groups for intellectual superiority will be the driving force of eugenics -- and nationalism is the formula for this friendly competition. May the most determined, and empirically driven race win."

    The above is from http://eugenics.home.att.net/

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