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    Smile Kalasha of Pakistan

    These nearly extinct people are interesting for sometimes having fair hair, light eyes & skin (by Pakistani standards ), their resistance to abandon their culture, and their supposed Macedonian/Greek/Cretan origin. Like most small minorities -there are only 3000-4000 of them - they have absorbed genes from the majority population.


    A young woman from the Kalasha tribe in the northern valley of Bumburet near Chitrall, shows her traditional facial tattoos made using mulberry juice on July 7, 2003. The Kalasha are a tiny non-Muslim tribe some believe descend from the ancient armies of Alexander the Great. The tribe has clung to traditional ways of life in the face of energetic attempts to convert them to Islam or Christianity.

    http://www.brain.net.pk/~pedd/kalash.jpg
    http://www.nba.fi/MUSEUMS/KULTMUS/pakistan.JPG
    http://home6.inet.tele.dk/nitschke/i...lash_stort.jpg
    http://www.phf.sdnpk.org/Images/Kalash12.jpg

    In French with pictures
    In Dutch
    A bit about them here
    Kalash Valley

    PAGAN KALASH REGIONAL FESTIVALS
    It is believed that the people numbering 3 to 4 thousand living in the Chitral District of NWFP are connected to the old Greek civilization. The tourists visiting NWFP also visit one of the world's ancient tribe of Kalash people and their civilization during their following festivals each year.

    Name of Festival/Dates
    Cheelim Jusht (Spring Festival)/2nd week of May
    Uchal (Summer Season Festival)/2nd week of August
    Pur (Autumn Festival)/2nd week of October
    Cheetermas (Winter Festival)/3rd week of December

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    On the subject of Pakistan, I also found this warrior from Northern Pakistan. I classified him as Nordish and was laughed at...

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    Very interesting info about the Kalasha... I didn't know remnants of Alexander's Greeks still lived so far out east in the old empire. Truly amazing.

    Your second picture looks definitely Europid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Very interesting info about the Kalasha... I didn't know remnants of Alexander's Greeks still lived so far out east in the old empire. Truly amazing.

    Your second picture looks definitely Europid...
    Both are Europid for sure and their fair skin can hide away that they partially belong to the Armenid race, this is apparent by the fleshy, broadish noses , with wide alae and thickened but depressed nose tip; the nose bridge might well be convex and the Kalasha man seems typical in the absence of a nasion depression, a Bogennase?
    But neither in general countenance nor in facial outline, do they represent the actual Armenid race.
    Big, hooked or bent noses are dominantly inherited, so we may surmise that the original stratum consisted of Nordids and Cromagnids, who gradually absorbed Orientalid blood of which the thick, eversed lips, wide open eyes with its curiously sickly lanquidity and convex noses are evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki
    Very interesting info about the Kalasha... I didn't know remnants of Alexander's Greeks still lived so far out east in the old empire. Truly amazing.

    Your second picture looks definitely Europid...
    Interesting but probable. Reminds me of the Cincari in Serbia and elsewhere in the Balkans who claim to be descendants of the Roman Legionnaires.



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    THis was posted at another discussion forum



    child from the wakhan area of pakistan(what is that, is it inhabited by tajiks?)
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pictures/wakhit9.jpg
    alhthough i am not really sure, these ladies might be pathan
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pictures/prev9.jpg
    afghan pathan
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pic...ghanpathan.jpg
    girl from ayun, near chitral
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...0/EK001873.jpg
    boy from Pasu
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pic...asu_jpgpak.jpg
    girl from baltistan
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pictures/baltistan.jpg
    pathan boys in peshawar
    http://www.piczonline.com/client/pictures/peshpak1.jpg
    kalash
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...3/QU001354.jpg
    chitral
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...383717-004.jpg
    gulmit
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...8/WR002561.jpg
    people in hunza
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...4/JB001966.jpg
    man from hunza(the very short one)
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...0/RH010019.jpg
    kids from hunza
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...6/SU002813.jpg
    man from hunza
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...0/GR010414.jpg
    hunza kids
    http://pro.corbis.com/images/waterma...7/UB004519.jpg

    Isobel Shaw in her book Pakistan said that the people of Hunza reminded her of Irish people back home with their auburn hair, light eyes and ruddy cheeks.
    Nuristanis, the cousins of Kalash have 30% blondism. It could be the same case with the Kalash.

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    the cousins of Kalash have 30% blondism.
    Hmmm...

    What is "blondism" defined as in this case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trønder
    Hmmm...

    What is "blondism" defined as in this case?
    I think it said blond hair combined with blue/green eyes. I'll try to find the link.

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    Here's one link. I'll try to find a more scientific one.
    Also, blondism is probably more prevalent in children who probably account for the 30%
    http://club.telepolis.com/trotamon/afgan/af_et_i.htm

    Anyways, I have some pictures of Pakistani people who exhibit "white" traits if anyone wants to see them.(in my special folder Whites in Nonwhite lands)

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    Actually, the Kalash are losing their culture but they are still the same people. I mean, Nuristanis number 500,000 or something(correct me if I am wrong) and though they are muslim, they are basically the same people.
    According to one theory, Kalash were the people who fleed the forced conversion to Islam by some Afghan ruler and went to hide in the high mountains of the Hindu Kush.
    Oh, and I am sorry, the article said that they exhibit blondism exceeding 30% in CERTAIN REGIONS not as a whole.

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