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    Post For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    She was born in Yorkshire.
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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    Thanks. I guess that you want to show me a Nord-Atlantid.

    She does look it in these pictures:



    http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/54...1CF461BB6606AD

    http://film.onet.pl/_i/film/g/gra_ripleya/g/g09.jpg

    She is very progressive.

    Good find.
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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey



    She is surely proto-Hallstatt.


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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey



    That would go against Coon's Danubian-Corded theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett

    She is surely proto-Hallstatt.

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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey



    I see no eastern origin for his Hallstatt. In its most classic and admired form it is essentially Megalithic. This does not contradict the best evidence.

    Did you not some time ago suggest something similar?


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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    I have not suggested that Coon related Megalith people of the British Isles with the arrival of Nordids in Scandinavia. Gaston Backman (1935) did that.

    Coon believed the classic Nordid is a Corded-Danubian blend. Please read the quote below.

    "(7) Nordics: The basic Nordic is the Corded-Danubian blend of the Aunjetitz and of the Early Iron Age in central Europe."

    http://www.snpa.skadi.net/chapter-VIII6.htm

    He made it clear in a plate (THE NORDIC RACE: EXAMPLES OF CORDED PREDOMINANCE) what is not Nordid, but what some anthropologists wanted to derive it from.

    "The Nordic race is a partially depigmented branch of the greater Mediterranean racial stock. It is probably a composite race made up of two or more basic Mediterranean strains, depigmented separately or in conjunction by a progressive evolutionary process. As has been demonstrated on plates 9 and 10, it is impossible, as some European anthropologists believe, to derive a Nordic directly from a dolichocephalic Upper Palaeolithic ancestor of Brünn or Cro-Magnon type. Reduction of these overgrown races produces a result which is quite un-Nordic morphologically as well as in constitutional type. It is the author's thesis that the Nordic race in Europe was caused by a blending of the early Danubian Mediterranean strain with the later Corded element. At the present time both Corded and Danubian elements may be isolated, while other Nordics preserve the blended form. Nordics in eastern Europe, Asia, and North Africa may have been formed by separate recombinations or simple depigmentations of comparable Mediterranean strains, or by invasions of these regions from an European or West
    Asiatic depigmentation center."

    http://web.archive.org/web/200306080...Papers/p27.htm

    Coon associated the Megalithic movement with Atlanto-Mediterranids.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett


    I see no eastern origin for his Hallstatt. In its most classic and admired form it is essentially Megalithic. This does not contradict the best evidence.

    Did you not some time ago suggest something similar?


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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    You misunderstood me. I know what Coon thought of the origins of his Hallstatt type, which is why I said I see no eastern origin for it, in contradiction And I certainly did not mean to imply that you had ever misunderstood him. Certainly he associated the Megalithic movement with Atlantids, and I do not disagree with that, but see that the classic Hallstatt came out of the Atlantid once the Megalithic period ended. And it is entirely possible, and very likely, that the Corded played a role in this, but Corded-like individuals are much rarer than Atlanto-form individuals, so it is hard to see them as very ancestral, especially considering that Corded-like individuals are more often Trønders.

    I see no place for the Danubians in all of this.

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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    In some of the pics above-- mostly the last one-- and maybe because of the hairstyle more than anything.... she reminds me of a dark haired Meg Ryan.

    http://www.megryan.de/pics/wallpaper...024x768_13.jpg

    http://www.peoples.ru/art/cinema/actor/meg/ryan__2.jpg
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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    Thanks for the clarification.

    I can see what you mean. It looks like something the author forced on the reader. Neither do I understand the phenotypical relation between Danubians and Hallstatt Nordics, too bad we do not have Coon here to explain it for himself. It is also interesting that Megalithic people settled in SW Sweden where the Göta type predominate.

    In fact, I was going to give you an example of a Swede who look somewhat similar to Nord-Atlantids, perhaps in the same way that Matthew Fox does too.

    Klas Lindberg:

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    Another thing that bothers me is that Lundman wrote that Nord-Atlantid is to some extent intermediary between Göta and Insular, yet he believed one can see something pre-Celtic in the Nord-Atlantid. How does that work? If it is transitionary and not intermediary and betwixt and between because of later arrival of Germanic Nordids of Göta type (which I do not think can have been many, except maybe some Danes and Norwegians, and they did not settle to a large extent the regions where the type predominates), then it would mean proto-Göta people must have somehow passed through the British Isles or other parts of western Europe where the type may be found.

    Lundman explain how the Trönder came about, but he does not do a good job with Göta.

    "The Megalith people of Germany were typically long-skulled and low-skulled, and in relation to face and nose rather Faelish in race. On the Scandinavian peninsula we find among groups, who perhaps had not yet been Indo-Europeanized, likewise long and low crania, but narrower faces and noses. These two groups, the one in northwest Germany and the other in Scandinavia, were thus racially related to one another..."

    Bertil Lundman, The Races and Peoples of Europe, 1977

    Lundman related the Megalith people of Germany with the people on the Scandinavian peninsula, yet he believed the most divergent Nordid is the Faelish subrace in western Germany and also in the interior of southwestern Norway, whereas the Nord-Atlantid is like the primary type (meaning Scando-Nordids) but has much darker hair (and comparatively more red, 1988).

    I may come back to the subject later. I know Beckman (he wrote mostly about serology though) wrote about Megalithic people in Scandinavia too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett
    You misunderstood me. I know what Coon thought of the origins of his Hallstatt type, which is why I said I see no eastern origin for it, in contradiction And I certainly did not mean to imply that you had ever misunderstood him. Certainly he associated the Megalithic movement with Atlantids, and I do not disagree with that, but see that the classic Hallstatt came out of the Atlantid once the Megalithic period ended. And it is entirely possible, and very likely, that the Corded played a role in this, but Corded-like individuals are much rarer than Atlanto-form individuals, so it is hard to see them as very ancestral, especially considering that Corded-like individuals are more often Trønders.
    I see no place for the Danubians in all of this.
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    Post Re: For Glenlivet: Lena Headey

    North-Atlantid. Is it just me or do North-Atlantid women tend to be on the attractive side?

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