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Thread: Genetic, Linguistic and Cultural Affinities of Germanic Peoples

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    I don't understand the genetic correlations, What is Norway doing so close to Albania?

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    I don't really understand it either. We 'belgians' are more familiar with the French and the Italians than with the Dutch? Or is this because they don't distinguish Flanders and Wallonia?

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    AW: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Tolerance is a proof of distrust in one's own ideals. Friedrich Nietzsche


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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    I am very suspicous when it comes to genetic relations.
    In the 70s there has been a study which was desgined to abolish the term race, by showing that a balck and a white man can have more genetic similarities than two white men.
    I don't think this was made up, but while we recently got to know the genome, we know next to nothing about the inner gentical connections.
    A human shares 98% genetic make up with a chimpanse, yet we are totally different in many aspects.

    Like there was an experiment where they took the genes responsible for eyes from a fruitfly, and put it into an mouse embryo.
    Well, the mouse didn't get fly eyes, it got simple mouse eyes. So what does this tell us?
    It is not enough to share the same gens.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Re: AW: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    A quality post. I would be careful assigning any particular haplogroup to any particular group of people.
    AKA rossi, rusman

    If you adhere to the truth, and have a good grounding in logic and the scientific method, then, you might, just might, know something sometime.

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Ireland is counted as a Germanic country, but isn't Germanic i think.

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzar
    Ireland is counted as a Germanic country, but isn't Germanic i think.
    It's because it says Linguistic affinities,and they speak english
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    It's because it says Linguistic affinities,and they speak english

    It means that linguistic affinities don't rapresent the exact reality.

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzar
    It means that linguistic affinities don't rapresent the exact reality.
    Well, it does, because the irish actually do speak english

    I get what you mean though but the map is not wrong.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    Re: Relation of Germanic Peoples

    Quote Originally Posted by Huzar
    It means that linguistic affinities don't rapresent the exact reality.
    Better to say that they don't represent the complete reality. Linguistic affinities do indeed play a role in the cultural composition of a people — a significant role.

    Were it not so, then we not only would we never question the Germanicity of the northern French (but we do, as a society), but we would also tend to doubt the Germanicity of Swedes and Danes who exhibit strong UP traits (and we don't — at least not for that reason alone).

    But the Irish differ from the English quite strongly in culture, despite the cultural similarities caused by their speaking the same language.

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