View Poll Results: Who has military (or related) experience?

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    Post Who Has Military Experience?

    Why?...Curiosity!

    I'm interested in what percentage of us have served in the military in any capacity. I did a bit under two years in the Army Reserve. (This is no doubt rather meagre, but it strengthened me in some rather important ways I believe.)

    I'm not implying anyone here should serve a national military force. Indeed there are many moral reasons not to, especially these days. If you wish to, feel free to elaborate on these here.

    I imagine many of the Europeans would have had to do some such service as legal requirement.

    BTW, I'm not asking for any personal details here. No 'whats,' 'whens,' 'hows' required - unless you want to divulge.

    I'd like even those who have no such experience to vote, as I'm interested in the true percentage of us (male and female) with/without.
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    Conflicting reasons have kept me from doing so. Also, as I get older, i realize it will only be harder. My best friend is, as we speak, in Marine basic training at Parris Island. He is 27! Can you imagine?

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    Two days after graduating from gymnasium I started my military service. Because I was qualified and planning to study later on I went for the reserve officer career but the military intelligence service had other plans for a dissident like me. So I did my 12 months service in a NATO bataillon, did lots of maneuvers and left as corporal of the reserve. While almost everyone else who served with me was called in for reserve training at least once I never heard from the army again. Guess they were quite happy to get rid of me.
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    Under other circumstances, I might consider some military service.
    However, as a UK citizen I have too many issues preventing me from joining the British army.
    The possibility of being called to serve in Nothern Ireland hardly helps.
    In such a case, it would be better for both me and the army that I didn't join up

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    I was a soldier in training, I think it is called a Cadet, for some years. I avoided compulsory military service however.

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    Yeah, it is esier to slip into the cadet program there, because the army is even more chaotically organized. In the German army since 1990 all applicants get screened automatically by the military intelligence. Otherwise I'd be captain by now - though in an increasingly multi-culti army.
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    I dated several military guys (not at the same time!). Does that count?

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    Ten months Bundeswehr. First two months of basic training, and then I spent the rest of the time in hanging around in an office: copying, cooking coffee, putting stamps on formulars... I was glad when I was out again. I didn't have any illusions about what the Bundeswehr means for policy and this whole system and society. I had some great friends and comrades there, but I didn't think one second that there was a personal future for me in that organisation. It was just around the time when this hateful anti-National Red-Green government learned that the army is an excellent tool to promote so-called "humanitarian", truly left "values" with force in other countries. The soldiers as useful idiots for those who never served their few months in the army. And if one doesn't need them immediately, they're something to despise and to spit at. - That's our system, our society.


    I suppose that the Bundeswehr is the most anti-military military in the world. It often seemed to me more like a political correct debating club. If non-Germans still believe that such a thing like German militarism exists, they needn't worry.
    The Bundeswehr isn't really a refuge of good values and Nationalism in a bad society. The concept is "the citizen in uniform". Yeah: the well-behaved BRD-citizen of this whole real today existing BRD-society in uniform, who thinks that everything, that's going on in society and politics is okay and fine. That's it!
    Even if the average of single people in the army who are "right wing" in their views is higher (more in the lower ranks), taken all people and as organisation it isn't really different from society, and you havn't got the chance to act active towards such a "right" direction. The army is nothing but the instrument of today's disgusting politicians.
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    Give me a land to fight for...
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    Post My Service

    I did 2.5 years in the British Transport Police,
    18 months in The City of London Police. As well as Home Dept training,
    I did Major incident and Anti-terr course run by the Nju. That completes approx 4 yrs crown service. Rank Police Constable Professional.
    I spent 3 years in the FCA The reserve Defence Force , an MP unit in Dublin, plus 1 week at the Curragh, although i came first in the NCOs exam, i was never promoted above private 3 stars. for me a Badge of honour . as The Commisar Danilov said In 'Enemy at the Gates'.,' ITS THE ESSENCE of CLASS STRUGGLE'. I hold an Irish Army record for putting 5, .22 bullets through the bullseye at 25 yrds potholeing it with a .22 insert put into an Fal . no other soldier ever achieved this. Oh i also had a Tribunal recommend in England that Irishmen who serve in The British Police be given Ethnic minority status. . so this is why The Free state Army were ordered to show me no respect . as a Dissen ter . I have both Military and Police, experience so do i get Two votes?
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