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    I have a copy of 'Sport Und Staat' published in 1934. It's in very good condition, with only slight wear on the back cover. Inside front leaf picture of Uncle Adolf.

    This isn't my copy, but here's a look at what it is.

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    Nice!

    Another condition though for my MK though (..when I eventually get one) is that it must not contain that dreadful Gothic script

    I can understand German okay but I find that style of writing really difficult to cope with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaxonPagan View Post
    Nice!

    Another condition though for my MK though (..when I eventually get one) is that it must not contain that dreadful Gothic script

    I can understand German okay but I find that style of writing really difficult to cope with.
    You don't have a copy? I'm surprised really. Unless its totally banned over there.

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    I actually have 4 of them in English but no German version yet.

    I do have it in German as an online PDF document but I really want an authentic book from that period.

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    When I was stationed in Germany (late 80's) I picked up a copy of The Complete Works of Shakespeare and a copy (in English) of Mein Kampf. Both of these I bought at the post book store, and to my surprise I found that both of them had been printed in Leipzig- in EAST GERMANY- before reunification.

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    Top hat belonging to Adolf Hitler sells for €50,000 at auction


    AN AUCTION OF Nazi memorabilia, including Adolf Hitler’s top hat, raked in hundreds of thousands of Euro in Munich Wednesday amid German and international protests.





    The Nazi leader’s top hat sold for €50,000 according to the Hermann Historica auction house website, while items of clothing belonging to his partner Eva Braun sold for thousands each.



    One buyer paid €130,000 for a silver-plated copy of Hitler’s antisemitic political manifesto Mein Kampf that once belonged to senior Nazi Hermann Goering, emblazoned with an eagle and the party’s swastika emblem.

    Other lots of clothing and personal belongings from World War II Nazi leaders like Heinrich Himmler and Rudolf Hess also packed the catalogue pages.

    “The Nazis’ crimes are being trivialised here,” the German government’s antisemitism commissioner Felix Klein told the Funke newspaper group. “They’re acting as if they’re trading in perfectly normal historical art objects,” he said, adding that there was “a danger that Nazi relics become cult objects” for the extreme right”.

    Ahead of the auction, European Jewish Association chairman Rabbi Menachem Margolin recalled that “it is Germany that leads Europe in the sheer volume of reported antisemitic incidents”. “We urge the German authorities to compel auction houses to divulge the names of those who are buying,” he said, saying they should be put on a government ‘watch’ list.

    Many of the items belonging to top Nazi leaders were seized by US soldiers in the final days of World War II.

    The dresses belonging to Braun, Hitler’s long-term companion who was briefly his wife before their death, were found among 40 trunks seized by the US military in May 1945 in Salzburg in Austria.

    Some of the more unusual lots include a copy of Hitler’s rental contract in Munich and a pair of sunglasses worn by a defendant at the Nazi war crimes trials in Nuremberg to avoid the glare of the floodlights.




    Top hat belonging to Adolf Hitler sells for €50,000 at auction amid international protests

    21 XI 2019.

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    Jewish Group Condemns Auction of Hitler Speeches in Germany


    BERLIN (AP) — A prominent European Jewish organization slammed a Munich auction house’s decision to sell several of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler’s handwritten speech notes, saying Tuesday it “defies logic, decency and humanity” to put them on the market.



    Rabbi Menachem Margolin, the head of the Brussels-based European Jewish Association, said the upcoming sale of the manuscripts is particularly worrisome amid recent figures showing rising anti-Semitism in Germany, and could encourage neo-Nazis. “I cannot get my head around the sheer irresponsibility and insensitivity, in such a febrile climate, of selling items such as the ramblings of the world’s biggest killer of Jews to the highest bidder,” he said in a statement. “What auctions like this do help legitimize Hitler enthusiasts who thrive on this sort of stuff.”



    The speech notes being offered, all dated before World War II, are directed to Nazi-party organizations and contributors at various functions, and make reference to preparing Germany for war and the “Jewish problem,” said Bernhard Pacher, the managing director of the Hermann Historica auction house where they go on sale Friday. He defended the sale, saying the papers belong in a museum or in the hands of researchers as historical documents. “These are handwritten notes from Adolf Hitler, where if you analyze what he wrote … you can prove he was publicly speaking about going to war, about ‘resolving the Jewish problem,’” Pacher told The Associated Press in a telephone interview. “If we destroy these things and they do not go into a museum for experts to work on them, you will leave the interpretation of what was happening to the right-wing Nazi apologists, who will say Hitler never said that. The man was preparing the Germans that there would be a war and those who didn’t want to see that must have been totally blind — it’s in there.”





    German dictator Adolf Hitler at various moments during his delivery of a speech.



    The auction house has come under fire in the past for its sale of Nazi-era items, and maintains it goes to great lengths to ensure that they are not being sold to neo-Nazis, and are usually bought by museums and research facilities. In 2016, it auctioned off one of Hitler’s uniforms for 275,000 euros ($325,000) and previously sold a typewriter and dozens of other items owned by the Nazi leader, among other things. Perhaps most famously, last year a Lebanese-born Swiss real estate mogul purchased Hitler’s top hat, a silver-plated edition of “Mein Kampf” and other items the auction house offered in order to keep them out of the hands of neo-Nazis, and donated them to a Jewish group.


    The auction house has also dealt in many other items owned by famous historical figures, including Napoleon Bonaparte’s silver and gold-plated toothbrush, a sabre that belonged to British naval hero Adm. Horatio Nelson, and a sword that once belonged to famed Italian seducer Giacomo Casanova.



    Margolin called the businessman’s intervention to purchase the items last year “a miracle,” but said “we cannot rely on miracles going forwards” and urged the auction house to pull the speeches from the upcoming sale. “It defies logic, decency and humanity for the very same auction house that came under fire less than a year ago for selling disgusting lots of Nazi memorabilia that they should do so again,” he said.



    Starting prices for the speech notes range between 2,500 euros and 7,500 euros ($3,000-8,800), which Pacher said is a deterrent in and of itself to them being purchased by right-wing extremists. “For neo-Nazi purposes, you don’t spend 10,000 on these things, you get yourself a copy,” he said.




    The "mistake" the British made was to declare war against Germany.




    The speech notes being offered, all dated before World War II… make reference to preparing Germany for war and the “Jewish problem”

    That is because the Jews had already declared war on Germany years before Britain, France and the other countries under Jewish influences did.



    The Jews started our erosion of free speech by banning, making everything to do with Hitler hate speech. Now everything is hate speech.



    There's no business like Shoah business...



    Jewish Group Condemns Auction of Hitler Speeches in Germany

    21 X 2020.


    Without the Versailles Treaty and shrill Churchill, Britain would never have went to war with Germany. Stalin had also invaded Poland why not be fair and declare war on Russia as well?


    Churchill was warned by two reigning monarchs that another war with Germany would cost the
    British Empire. And it did cost Britain the Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagdmesser View Post
    Without the Versailles Treaty and shrill Churchill, Britain would never have went to war with Germany. Stalin had also invaded Poland why not be fair and declare war on Russia as well?

    Churchill was warned by two reigning monarchs that another war with Germany would cost the
    British Empire. And it did cost Britain the Empire.

    That would have been the logical consequence, but the aim of the war was to destroy Germany, at any cost, by any means necessary. After all, the forces behind the curtain were not British or Russian, but from a small tribe that currently resides in the Middle East.

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    Globe-shaped bar from 'HITLER'S YACHT' up for grabs at auction (PHOTOS)






    An art deco bar, which used to serve drinks to guests of Adolf Hitler, is to be auctioned for as much as $250,000 after reportedly spending seven decades on a Maryland farm.




    The remarkable piece of history comes from the 'Grille,' an aviso ship of the Nazi Germany military fleet, which served as a state yacht during the interbellum. It looks like a globe, with two quarter spheres fashioned from welded steel bars for parallels and meridians. From outside, it appears to be floating in the air with the bartender in the middle. The lot comes with five padded brass barstools, one of which retains the original fabric.


    According to US saleroom Alexander Historical Auctions, which is set to sell off the bar later this month, it was salvaged from the 'Grille' when she was being scrapped in the US in the early 1950s. The seller's father was friends with the owner of Doan Salvage Yard, where she was dismantled, and was offered the opportunity to purchase the curiosity.



    The bar then was taken to a rural area near Elkton, Maryland, where it was installed in the basement of a house. It spent some time stored in a barn, but otherwise remained untouched for almost 70 years, the description says. The lot is offered "as is, where is," and is expected to earn anywhere between $150,000 and $250,000.






    Alexander Historical Auctions.

    The 'Grille,' a lightly-armored and armed 135-meter ship, was built by Nazi Germany in the mid-1930s and was initially used by the German Navy to host top military brass and other state officials, including Hitler himself. For example, she carried the German military delegation to the coronation of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth in 1937.



    During World War II, the ship served as a minelayer and patrol vessel. It was taken by the UK as part of war reparations, before being disarmed and sold into private hands. In 1948 Jewish paramilitary saboteurs, who believed its Lebanese owner would hand it to the national navy, sunk the ship. She was eventually transported to the US and sold for scrap in 1951.



    Despite its shape, which any would-be ruler of the world would find appealing, the bar was probably not the part of the 'Grille' most favoured by Hitler, who was a teetotaler. According to the captain's memoirs cited by the auction house, he often lectured staff about the virtues of temperance and on one occasion ambushed crew members, who had gathered at the saloon to share a bottle of champagne. Despite attempts to hide the bottle, Hitler spotted it, spilled its sparkly contents and "walked out without uttering a word."





    Hitler was a National Socialist - not a nazi. Like the bar was his personal dream.. He didn't even drink and didn't care much about personal riches or fancy stuff.



    Megalomaniac's dream embodied? Globe-shaped bar from 'HITLER'S YACHT' up for grabs at auction (PHOTOS)
    22 X 2020.

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    The Fuhrer's steeds: how the 'art world's Indiana Jones' tracked down the vast sculptures that once stood outside Adolf Hitler's office.


    The Fuhrer's steeds: how the 'art world's Indiana Jones' tracked down the vast sculptures that once stood outside Adolf Hitler's office.




    In Saturday’s Mail, we told how in 2014 Arthur Brand — the Indiana Jones of the art world — was drawn into a shadowy world of neo-Nazis, ex-Stasi agents and crooked art dealers, after a friend with criminal contacts showed him a photo of the huge bronze horses that stood outside Hitler’s office window. They were being secretly offered for sale by a dealer called Steven. At first, Arthur was convinced they were fakes, as the Red Army had blasted to pieces all the statues outside the Reich Chancellery in 1945. Then he took a closer look at the last known film footage of Hitler. To Arthur’s astonishment, a plinth behind Hitler, which should have contained one of the horses, was empty — which meant they had been moved to safety. He discovered that the Red Army had moved them to an army barracks in East Germany. But where were they now?



    The time was right to speak to Steven, the crooked dealer offering Hitler’s massive bronze horses for sale on the black market. But one misplaced word from me and they would vanish for ever. Obviously, I needed to pretend I was representing someone willing to buy valuable Nazi art. Someone extremely rich. As a dealer, I continued, Steven and I would both get a cut if he could find suitable pieces worth at least £1 million. At this stage, I didn’t dare mention the horses. Steven said he’d get back to me. For weeks, however, my phone was silent and I was convinced I had been rumbled. I was mistaken. When he contacted me again, it was to say he had something amazing, but it would have to be kept out of the public gaze. He followed up with an email and a colour photo of the horses. They were ‘two of the most important Nazi-era sculptures,’ he wrote, ‘ones that everybody assumes were destroyed.





    German police have retrieved two long-lost bronze horses sculptures commissioned by the Nazi regime to adorn Adolf Hitler's chancellery after conducting raids on eight suspected members of an illegal ring of art dealers



    ‘They’re been owned by a family called Flick, who actively supported the Nazis during the war. They want to offload them as soon as possible for political reasons. The price is 8 million euros [£7 million].’ I was ecstatic. Steven had swallowed the bait. One evening, I got a call from a journalist working for Der Spiegel, German’s leading news magazine. Konstantin von Hammerstein wanted to interview me about the illegal trade in cultural artefacts. ‘Rumour has it that some well-known works by celebrated Nazi sculptors, long thought destroyed, still exist,’ he said. ‘It’s something I’m already looking into.’

    That sounded worrying — a newspaper report would ruin everything. But, providing Konstantin kept a lid on my investigation for now, he might prove to be an asset. After all, if anything went wrong in my scheme, I could be charged with trying to sell stolen sculptures on the black market. If a member of the Press was involved, however, we could file the whole operation under ‘investigative journalism’. I sent him the colour photo of Hitler’s horses and waited for his reaction. Konstantin rang back almost immediately. ‘Herr Brand, if this is genuine, we’re talking about the find of the century.’ He urged me to get in touch with his friend René Allonge, the German police’s chief commissioner responsible for art crimes. ‘I’m telling you this because the people mixed up in this aren’t exactly choirboys,’ Konstantin added. ‘The neo-Nazi movement is on the rise these days and its supporters don’t shrink from violence.’





    The Watchman, a famous Nazi sculpture by Arno Breker — one of Hitler’s three favourite sculptors, along with Fritz Klimsch and Josef Thorak, who had created the horses


    In Berlin, I reported to a police station for my meeting with Chief Commissioner René Allonge. He was waiting for me, a big smile on his face. We walked down a long, bare corridor and entered his office, a gleaming white space with a few paintings and posters of stolen art on the walls. ‘See those boxes over there?’ Allonge pointed to about 30 boxes in the corner of his office. ‘That’s the archive [of the art section] of the Stasi. They didn’t just confiscate art collections; they also produced forgeries that were then sold as genuine items in the West.’


    Allonge already knew the horses were being offered for sale on the black market. An ex-Stasi informant had told him the horses were owned by a grand master of the Knights Templar. The name Adler had also been mentioned. ‘The horses are almost certainly fakes, but offering forgeries for sale is still a serious crime,’ Allonge told me.‘Fakes?’ I got out my laptop and showed him the YouTube footage of Hitler before the bombing of the Reich Chancellery. Nine seconds into the film, I hit the pause button and showed him the empty place where one of the horses had stood. Then I told him about their long sojourn at a Russian barracks. Allonge was gazing at the screen wide-eyed. ‘You have a lead, I take it?’ I explained how I was trying to arrange a viewing and promised to keep him posted.


    A few days later, I rang Steven to tell him that my ‘client’, Moss, was extremely interested in the horse bronzes. We agreed to meet up at Café Gruter in Amsterdam so I could supply proof that my buyer had the necessary funds. The café, when I arrived early with my colleague, Alex, was deserted. Alex installed himself at a separate table by a window. I was feeling very jumpy — chiefly because I had a miniature camera in my jacket pocket, with the lens hidden in my lapel. What if it went wrong? ‘Relax. They’re not going to bump you off,’ Alex said. ‘Not this minute, anyway.’ Steven arrived. He looked exactly as you’d expect an art broker to look, right down to a chic little scarf and expensive watch. ‘If we mess this up, we’ll either end up in jail or at the bottom of a lake,’ he said with a laugh.


    I showed him my imaginary client’s passport and an auditor’s report — all fake. Steven said he’d never seen Hitler’s horses himself. ‘I don’t even know where they are. When I asked, I was warned not to ask unnecessary questions. We left it that Steven would try to get me a viewing, so I could assure my client the horses were genuine. Later, Alex and I looked at the footage from my secret camera. All there. Better still, Alex had recorded Steven making a phone call while I was in the loo. ‘Adler, I’ve arrived. See you later,’ he’d said. The same name that had been recalled by Allonge’s ex-Stasi informant.


    Who had the horses? Was it the Flick family Steven had mentioned in his email? Or Adler, whom he had called while I was out of the room? It was time to put pressure on Steven. When we met again, in a restaurant, he told me the owners were getting cold feet about shipping the horses to the U.S. ‘There only needs to be one person in the chain who recognises those statues and we’re done for.’


    I took a break and pretended to call my client. On my return, I told Steven: ‘Well, as luck would have it, last year Moss happened to buy a chateau somewhere in Provence. He’d already concluded that it would be safer to take the statues there. They wouldn’t have to go past Customs, so no one will be any the wiser.’ Steven beamed and loosened his scarf. ‘Perfect!’ He fumbled around in his briefcase and got out a file. ‘I’ve asked the owners for something extra to sweeten the deal. They offered me this.’ On the table, he placed a photo that showed a gigantic statue of a muscular, naked man holding a sword. It was The Watchman, a famous Nazi sculpture by Arno Breker — one of Hitler’s three favourite sculptors, along with Fritz Klimsch and Josef Thorak, who had created the horses.


    I scrutinised the photo. How on earth could this statue have remained hidden all these years? Ten metres tall — that was as high as a three-storey building. ‘Please tell me this sculpture’s for sale, too,’ I said excitedly. ‘It is indeed. Before long, Moss will own both the Thorak horses and The Watchman. Eight million euros [£7 million] each.’ The mythical Moss was, of course, thrilled to hear about The Watchman and immediately agreed to the asking price. But I was all too aware that time was pressing. If anyone were to look seriously into Moss, my whole plan would fall apart.


    Meanwhile, the journalist Konstantin had been doing some digging and discovered there was a collector of Nazi memorabilia called Mathias Flick. This had to be the Flick that Steven had referred to in his email as the current owner of the horses. Konstantin gave me an address for Flick in northern Germany. ‘But be careful. This guy is said to have a huge stash of arms.’ Arriving in a nearby town with my colleague, Alex, I asked a man for directions. ‘Oh, so you’re going to see Herr Flick. A very nice man,’ he said. It turned out that during a year of heavy snow, Flick had cleared it from the village with his World War II Wehrmacht tank, complete with gun barrel.


    If René Allonge ever got permission to raid the place, he’d need to take an army with him. Flick’s large garden was surrounded by a very high wall — high enough to conceal the three-metre-high horses. So I climbed a tree next to it, but there was a cracking sound and I tumbled to the ground. On the other side of the wall, a dog started barking. Then we heard a man — Flick? — calling it. Alex hissed: ‘Bet you he’ll call the police and we’ll be arrested for trespassing.’ In the end, Alex saved the day. He managed to get access to satellite photos on his smartphone — so we zoomed into Flick’s garden. No sign of the horses. But we could see caterpillar tracks on the lawn from the tank — had it been used to move the giant steeds?





    New Year's Reception of the Wehrmacht in the new Reich Chancellery, 1939. In the background is The Army sculpture



    And, oh my God, half hidden under the foliage, a few metres from where I was crouching, was a giant bronze statue. I quickly shimmied up the tree again. When I saw it, I thought I must be dreaming. It was perhaps the most famous statue of the Third Reich: The Army [Die Wehrmacht] by Arno Breker. Missing for 70 years, it had stood at the entrance to Hitler’s Reich Chancellery.


    René Allonge was keen to launch a raid on Flick’s property, and was busy wading through all the red tape that involved. He would also have to warn Germany’s political leaders in advance — but was wary of doing so until the last minute. He was fully aware, I suspected, that former Nazis had for decades enjoyed protection from the highest political echelons. He wouldn’t want to risk anyone being tipped off. At the same time, Allonge had news: he had discovered that a man called Detlef Adler had been involved in a court case concerning some unnamed statues. Could this be the mysterious Adler whom Steven had called from the restaurant?






    Adolf Hitler with Albert Speer (on left) and Arno Breker (on right) posing front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris (France) in June 1940


    Not long afterwards, Allonge rang again. ‘Arthur, the raids are on for the day after tomorrow! He’d be targeting Flick, Adler and another man he suspected. ‘The Ministers of Justice and Culture have been informed. Everyone’s blown away by the news that the Reich Chancellery statues still exist,’ said Allonge. ‘At 7am on Wednesday, around 200 police officers will assemble in three locations. Then we’ll set off. The army has lent us some explosives experts, as well as emergency service vehicles and equipment. As yet, the officers just think it’s a big drugs bust.’ Two hundred police officers and the army? I broke out in a sweat. If this went wrong, I would have to move to a desert island.


    Allonge forbade me from attending any of the raids because I was considered a star witness. However, Konstantin would be going on the Adler raid, while my colleague Alex went on the Flick raid — and I could keep in touch with them by phone. On Wednesday, May 20, 2015, three raids were launched simultaneously. The endgame had begun. Konstantin soon emailed me a video clip of Adler’s house in Bad Dürkheim. ‘Someone’s opening the door,’ he said on the phone. ‘It’s Adler! They’re reading something aloud to him, probably the search warrant. More and more cars are pulling up. Adler’s just stepping aside and officers are going into his house. He looks as white as a sheet.’ Next it was Alex, perched in a tree overlooking Flick’s garden, calling to say police were on the lawn, gaping at the huge Nazi sculpture The Army.


    By the time Alex rang me again, police had combed through Flick’s underground garage. They had found a V-1— a deadly flying bomb of the type Germany had rained on Britain. As for The Army, Flick was claiming he had bought it from a scrap metal dealer in East Germany. But still no horses. As the minutes ticked by, I started feeling despondent. Had the owner rumbled us and moved the statues to a secret location? ‘Arthur, most of the police are leaving Adler’s villa,’ Konstantin reported. ‘They’re coming out, getting into their cars and driving away.’


    Just then, my other line rang. Steven! I took a deep breath. ‘I’m just ringing to check how things are,’ he said. He clearly knew nothing about the raids! I assured him that I was still on for the viewing of the horses next week. By 10.25, it was clear the raids had been a fiasco. Nothing had been found apart from The Army statue in Flick’s grounds and a gigantic arms cache. Konstantin called again. ‘Everyone’s gone, except Adler, a lawyer and a detective,’ he said. There was a long pause. ‘Wait,’ he whispered. ‘A lawyer is coming out with a detective. They’re getting into the lawyer’s car together. Something’s going on. I’ll follow them in my car. Call you in a sec.’


    A few minutes later, Konstantin checked in again. ‘We’re in some kind of business park in Bad Dürkheim. They’re parking in front of a huge warehouse . . . They’re opening the gate. I’m going to try to get nearer.’ ‘Konstantin?’ I yelled. ‘Take a look inside. Now!’ I could hear his footsteps. ‘Are you still there?’ I asked. ‘Hello?’ ‘Yes, I’m still here. My God. I can see them! I can see Hitler’s horses. Oh my God!’


    For a second, I nearly blacked out. ‘They’re standing side by side at the back of the warehouse. It’s them. No doubt about it!’ My phone instantly rang again. It was Steven, and he was swearing. ‘They’ve carried out raids right across Germany,’ he told me. ‘I just got a call. It seems they’ve found the horses, too.’ I wanted to whoop — but was just able to stop myself. Steven continued to swear, livid with rage. ‘Your client Moss won’t be able to buy the horses now,’ he said. ‘This is a total disaster. Twenty million down the drain!’ I couldn’t believe Steven still thought my client existed. Meanwhile, I had received a video clip from Konstantin. There they stood, as if looming up out of the mist: Hitler’s horses!


    Steven was still talking. ‘Listen,’ he said, ‘perhaps something can still be salvaged. ‘We can forget about the horses and The Watchman. But I’ve got access to a unique carpet, ten by five metres. Made for the last Shah of Iran. It’s Iranian state property, so the deal would be hush-hush . . .’



    The 2015 discovery of Hitler’s horses made headlines around the world. In addition, police had found two statues by Breker and two by Fritz Klimsch — plus, of course, The Army. They also tracked down The Watchman, which weighed 40 tons. Almost immediately, a debate raged on what to do with the sculptures: whether to exhibit them, tuck them away or even destroy them. In the end, the German government decided that they should be put on show. Before the sculptures can be exhibited, however, a court will have to decide on the rightful owner. As for Adler, Flick and Steven, they got off with nothing more than a nasty shock. It has been established by the German prosecutor that the charges fall outside the statute of limitations.


    As for me, I feared this affair might rebound on me and affect my business. But Jewish families who come to me for help in tracing possessions stolen during World War II were delighted that I had cheated some Nazis out of millions of euros. And neo-Nazis were so thrilled at the sudden reappearance of the Führer’s favourite sculptures that they completely forgot to threaten me.




    Adapted by Corinna Honan from the book Hitler’s Horses, by Arthur Brand



    ARTHUR BRAND reveals how sculptures that stood outside ...

    26 I 2021.


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    Last Post: Tuesday, January 19th, 2010, 05:35 PM

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