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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    The 'Picts' where foes who the Romans fought and were described as having red-hair and 'large limbs' by Roman historian Tacitus. Modern historians with the help of anthropologists have placed red-hair as a unique characteristic belonging to the Picts, who were characteristic to what is now regarded as Scottish
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    A! Fredome is a noble thing
    Fredome mays man to haiff liking.
    Fredome all solace to man giffis,
    He levys at es that frely levys.
    A noble hart may haiff nane es
    Na ellys nocht that may him ples
    Gyff fredome failyhe, for fre liking
    Is yharnyt our all other thing.
    Na he that ay has levyt fre
    May nocht knaw weill the propyrte
    The angyr na the wrechyt dome
    That is couplyt to foule thyrldome,
    Bot gyff he had assayit it.
    Than all perquer he suld it wyt,
    And suld think fredome mar to prys
    Than all the gold in warld that is.
    Thus contrar thingis evermar
    Discoveryngis off the tother ar,


    Scots is our mither tung; an gin we dinna hain it,
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    Scots is our mother tongue; and if we do not preserve it,
    nobody will preserve it for us.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    they say that Picts were actually a swarthy race of people who had origins in the Iberian peninsula (before it was invaded by celts) and north africa.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzstaffelor
    they say that Picts were actually a swarthy race of people who had origins in the Iberian peninsula (before it was invaded by celts) and north africa.
    who are they?
    A! Fredome is a noble thing
    Fredome mays man to haiff liking.
    Fredome all solace to man giffis,
    He levys at es that frely levys.
    A noble hart may haiff nane es
    Na ellys nocht that may him ples
    Gyff fredome failyhe, for fre liking
    Is yharnyt our all other thing.
    Na he that ay has levyt fre
    May nocht knaw weill the propyrte
    The angyr na the wrechyt dome
    That is couplyt to foule thyrldome,
    Bot gyff he had assayit it.
    Than all perquer he suld it wyt,
    And suld think fredome mar to prys
    Than all the gold in warld that is.
    Thus contrar thingis evermar
    Discoveryngis off the tother ar,


    Scots is our mither tung; an gin we dinna hain it,
    thare naebody gaun tae hain it for us.


    Scots is our mother tongue; and if we do not preserve it,
    nobody will preserve it for us.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    this article claims that the red hair genes is a legacy of the Neanderthals

    http://www.dhamurian.e-gympie.com/an...nderthal1.html
    A! Fredome is a noble thing
    Fredome mays man to haiff liking.
    Fredome all solace to man giffis,
    He levys at es that frely levys.
    A noble hart may haiff nane es
    Na ellys nocht that may him ples
    Gyff fredome failyhe, for fre liking
    Is yharnyt our all other thing.
    Na he that ay has levyt fre
    May nocht knaw weill the propyrte
    The angyr na the wrechyt dome
    That is couplyt to foule thyrldome,
    Bot gyff he had assayit it.
    Than all perquer he suld it wyt,
    And suld think fredome mar to prys
    Than all the gold in warld that is.
    Thus contrar thingis evermar
    Discoveryngis off the tother ar,


    Scots is our mither tung; an gin we dinna hain it,
    thare naebody gaun tae hain it for us.


    Scots is our mother tongue; and if we do not preserve it,
    nobody will preserve it for us.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzstaffelor
    they say that Picts were actually a swarthy race of people who had origins in the Iberian peninsula (before it was invaded by celts) and north africa.
    Do you know what time period this is supposed to happen?
    the MC1R gene is responsible for red hair, im not sure when the mutations in this gene responsible for red hair happened.
    A! Fredome is a noble thing
    Fredome mays man to haiff liking.
    Fredome all solace to man giffis,
    He levys at es that frely levys.
    A noble hart may haiff nane es
    Na ellys nocht that may him ples
    Gyff fredome failyhe, for fre liking
    Is yharnyt our all other thing.
    Na he that ay has levyt fre
    May nocht knaw weill the propyrte
    The angyr na the wrechyt dome
    That is couplyt to foule thyrldome,
    Bot gyff he had assayit it.
    Than all perquer he suld it wyt,
    And suld think fredome mar to prys
    Than all the gold in warld that is.
    Thus contrar thingis evermar
    Discoveryngis off the tother ar,


    Scots is our mither tung; an gin we dinna hain it,
    thare naebody gaun tae hain it for us.


    Scots is our mother tongue; and if we do not preserve it,
    nobody will preserve it for us.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    not sure, sorry. i read that article awhile back in a 1950's edition of Encyclopedia Britannica. But at that time, swarthy could be applied to anyone that didn't have extremely pale skin.

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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Enigma
    this article claims that the red hair genes is a legacy of the Neanderthals
    http://www.dhamurian.e-gympie.com/an...nderthal1.html
    The genetics of Red Hair
    By David Derbyshire
    What do Cleopatra, Napoleon Bonaparte and Nicole Kidman have in common? David Derbyshire investigates the genetics of red hair
    General Custer was one. So was Napoleon Bonaparte. Underneath Oliver Cromwell's severe helmet was a mass of red hair. Cleopatra used henna to enhance her auburn tresses, while Christopher Columbus took ginger hair to America.
    But while fiery-headed leaders, artists, poets and disc jockeys crop up with alarming regularity, evidence is emerging that red hair may be a relatively new phenomenon for mankind.
    Not Neanderthal: red hair is now thought to be a relatively recent development for mankind.
    According to the most recent estimates, the first red hair sprouted just 20,000 years ago, long after the advent of modern homo sapiens and towards the end of the last great ice age.
    http://www.redandproud.com/Red%20Med...002%202003.htm
    http://www.arts.telegraph.co.uk/conn...04/ixconn.html
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sexandhealth...name_page.html
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    Post Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    The evidence so far supports three conclusions:

    1. That it came from the Neandertals

    2. That it came into existence as Cro-Magnon adapted to the European environment

    3. That the mixing of Neandertal and Cro-Magnon created it

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    Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator X
    I always thought the red hair came from the Danes who established the Danelaw and other Scandinavians.
    Then how do you explain the fact that Wales has the 2nd highest amount of redheads in the world but it has the least amount of skandi blood in the UK.
    And I think the 'redhair from neanderthals' thing is bs, i remember reading recently that through DNA testing theyve come to the conclusion that we didnt mix?

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    Re: British Have Changed Little Since Ice Age, Gene Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern_Paladin
    Despite invasions by Saxons, Romans, Vikings, Normans, and others, the genetic makeup of today's white Britons is much the same as it was 12,000 ago, a new book claims.

    In The Tribes of Britain, archaeologist David Miles says around 80 percent of the genetic characteristics of most white Britons have been passed down from a few thousand Ice Age hunters.


    Miles, research fellow at the Institute of Archaeology in Oxford, England, says recent genetic and archaeological evidence puts a new perspective on the history of the British people.

    "There's been a lot of arguing over the last ten years, but it's now more or less agreed that about 80 percent of Britons' genes come from hunter-gatherers who came in immediately after the Ice Age," Miles said.

    These nomadic tribespeople followed herds of reindeer and wild horses northward to Britain as the climate warmed.

    "Numbers were probably quite small—just a few thousand people," Miles added.

    These earliest settlers were later cut off as rising sea levels isolated Britain from mainland Europe.

    New evidence for the genetic ancestry of modern Britons comes from analysis of blood groups, oxygen traces in teeth, and DNA samples taken from skeletal remains. ........

    "It is actually quite common to observe important cultural change, including adoption of wholly new identities, with little or no biological change to a population," Simon James, the Leicester University archaeologist, writes.

    One such change is the emergence of a Celtic identity in Britain. There are no historical references to Celts in ancient Britain.

    Miles explained that "Celts" was a name applied to tribes in Gaul—modern-day France—though their language shared the same root as those spoken by British tribes.

    Druid Gods! This makes me feel Good! Now I know why I have Blue Blood!

    Perhaps this will lead to the expansion of the term for Celts. Early Celts and Ultra Proto-Celts.

    Long, long...before the Jews and their little Hate Book came to our Islands we were Blue Blooded and Strong!!!

    As some of the attempted-invading Roman historians wrote, I believe, we had White skin, Skin so White you could see the Blue Veins as we SCREAMED in Battle Cry against the Judeo-Roman invaders of St. Saul-Paul. They built Hadrians Wall to keep us out. Call of the Blue Bloods!

    LONG LIVE THE DRUIDS!!!!!

    ULTRA CELT.
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